wheres the best place to get lead for moulds?

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#1 Post by **jhcabs** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:19 pm

Thinking of making my own leads for rough ground fishing. never bought lead before though.

Wheres the best places to find/buy lead and is there any good step by step instructions on the making them up?

Thanks

J

#2 Post by **donal murphy** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:32 pm

a building site... if you know any roofers you should get lots of leftovers, thats were i used to get some.. but the problem is that there's not many building sites around anymore

#3 Post by **donal murphy** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:35 pm

also

http://www.planetseafishing.com/tutoria ... ds-safely/

#4 Post by **jhcabs** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:45 pm

donal murphy wrote:a building site... if you know any roofers you should get lots of leftovers, thats were i used to get some.. but the problem is that there's not many building sites around anymore

Yeah i was thinking i don't see many builders lately

Thanks for the tip.

#5 Post by **myworldfishing** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:53 pm

Car batterys carry alloot of lead in the cells.... You have to take them out and bang off the grey stuff and your left with the lead....

#6 Post by **donal domeney** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:57 pm

any scrap yard will sell you some

https://www.google.ie/#hl=en&sclient=ps ... 52&bih=585

#7 Post by **Doberman** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:00 pm

Tyre centers will give away for free

#8 Post by **jhcabs** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:17 pm

I'm assuming a granny flat in the city centre is not a great place to boil lead in the kitchen?

Would a pot on a gas bbq do the trick? It looks like a great way to save money but envolves buying quite a lot of components to do it right

#9 Post by **paul skelly** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:26 pm

myworldfishing wrote:Car batterys carry alloot of lead in the cells.... You have to take them out and bang off the grey stuff and your left with the lead....

Not recommend you have to get rid of the sulfuric acid first and then you have to extract the lead too messy and dangerous , clean lead is your only man, I think john1 had a post up about the dangers

#10 Post by **JOHN1** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:29 pm

jhcabs wrote:I'm assuming a granny flat in the city centre is not a great place to boil lead in the kitchen?

Would a pot on a gas bbq do the trick? It looks like a great way to save money but envolves buying quite a lot of components to do it right

you are getting involved in a fairly dangerous pass time, just be very carefull. here is a post i made a while back

you might get a few tips from it

http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/bull ... scape+lead

#11 Post by **jhcabs** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:33 pm

Yeah i think i'll be doing this in the garden at my family home.

nice calm day. gas camping cooker, good glove and laddle. whats the worst that can happen

http://www.google.ie/imgres?um=1&hl=en& ... 7,s:0,i:88

#12 Post by **jhcabs** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:36 pm

JOHN1 wrote:
jhcabs wrote:I'm assuming a granny flat in the city centre is not a great place to boil lead in the kitchen?

Would a pot on a gas bbq do the trick? It looks like a great way to save money but envolves buying quite a lot of components to do it right
you are getting involved in a fairly dangerous pass time, just be very carefull. here is a post i made a while back you might get a few tips from it http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/bull ... scape+lead

Thanks for the heads up. I'm don't have the most steady hand so i'll be pretty dam careful.

You were very lucky dude btw. That would have been a horrible fate all in the prosuit of a fish

#13 Post by **willie bendit** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:38 pm

[quote="jhcabs"]Yeah i think i'll be doing this in the garden at my family home.

nice calm day. gas camping cooker, good glove and laddle. whats the worst that can happen.

using old lead thats being lying around ,or lead flashing that is folded over can produce some nasty results...long story short....molten lead and water /moisture dont mix...picture this ,sunny day ,out the back,melt the lead,water in lead ,next minute molten lead spluttering all over the shop...chaos! not worth all the hassle,just buy them,whats the worst that can happen ?

Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:43 pm

have you any friends that are roofers

#15 Post by **paul mason** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:43 pm

myworldfishing wrote:Car batterys carry alloot of lead in the cells.... You have to take them out and bang off the grey stuff and your left with the lead....

Don't go near car batterys if you've any sense they are full of sulphuric acid. Sulphuric acid is very corrosive and can burn or blind you at worst be careful. At best your clothes will fall apart when it comes in contact with the acid. Not good advice!!!!!

#16 Post by **myworldfishing** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:49 pm

I never ment for him to get batterys that still have liquid in them. Years ago I used to go the scrap yard and get the cells from the broken batts, if there was liquid in them Id stay away.

#17 Post by **jgraham768** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:14 pm

A local agri-business or centre, hardware, building supplies store would have them. Try not to order outside Ireland on the Internet or the shipping will be insane for obvious reasons! One metric roll of lead equates to but about 2200 +\- 50 ounces. The roll costs about €100 but at 20c an ounce (tackle shops) it's worth almost €500!

#18 Post by **jgraham768** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:18 pm

Instead of buying moulds just fill a bucket with sand, pack it down and stick your thumb into it, wiggle it around and you should get between 4-8 ounces depending how big you make it!
My philosophy is it doesn't need to be pretty just needs to sink.

#19 Post by **blowin** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:26 am

jgraham768 wrote:Instead of buying moulds just fill a bucket with sand, pack it down and stick your thumb into it, wiggle it around and you should get between 4-8 ounces depending how big you make it!
My philosophy is it doesn't need to be pretty just needs to sink.

Wouldn't the sand have to be at least damp to keep a hole in it ? Even if not dangerous doesn't this method give a very abrasive finish which can cut through line ?
I am not trying to find fault with your recommendation . Have just started making my own leads and not found it as easy as I had imagined ...... eg : using a gas ring in the open air is only fine so long as there is absolutely no draft (!) . Commercial moulds have to be hot when you pour in the lead or it solidifies before it fills the chamber . Old lead is full of crap which floats on the molten stuff and has to be scooped off before you can pour . I am sure all of my comments will have been made elsewhere . ....

I should be reading up on those links instead of typing this !
Good luck

#20 Post by **magpie01** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:10 am

Interesting topic!

I have thought about making my own leads before too but I think il give it a miss. Seems like a lot of hassle and very dangerous!

I was in Balscadden in Howth the other day (first time-never again!!!) and some guys there had made DIY weights using a coke cans full of stones! No wonder there were no fish around!

Sea Angling Ireland

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