SHOCKLEADER KNOT, WHAT DO YOU USE? MULTI USERS

[kstaff]

What do people use for typical 15lb to 60lb shock? ( actually use as opposed to a link to a knot)

Have you noticed lines which simply will not match together for a knot?

Cheers.

ps: I was 2 hours last night trying to tie a shockleader knot on a reel, mainlines were ( tried 3 different ones) all perfect as were the shockleaders ( 6 different brands) and it simply would not tie! I almost gave up fishing!

[ste c]

What do people use for typical 15lb to 60lb shock? ( actually use as opposed to a link to a knot)

Have you noticed lines which simply will not match together for a knot?

Cheers.

ps: I was 2 hours last night trying to tie a shockleader knot on a reel, mainlines were ( tried 3 different ones) all perfect as were the shockleaders ( 6 different brands) and it simply would not tie! I almost gave up fishing!

this is the knot iv always used find it quick and easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uogJwQBkXNA

[saving private brian]

never used this one but one thats pretty similar without the mainline loop,,,its like a sheeps hoofs trimmers he using

What do people use for typical 15lb to 60lb shock? ( actually use as opposed to a link to a knot)

Have you noticed lines which simply will not match together for a knot?

Cheers.

ps: I was 2 hours last night trying to tie a shockleader knot on a reel, mainlines were ( tried 3 different ones) all perfect as were the shockleaders ( 6 different brands) and it simply would not tie! I almost gave up fishing!

this is the knot iv always used find it quick and easy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uogJwQBkXNA

[lugworm]

in relation to that vid........i use the same knot but, at the first circle part of leader put the tag end thru again, before you put the main line thru it pull the leader to form like a figure of 8 knot, then put ur mainline thru each loop in the figure of 8, tighten and finish off exactly the same way as the vid........i just find this makes the knot a little slimmer and a bit more secure the way it tightens on the main line(u would have to try to see), and the tag end from the leader is actualy snipped off facing u, rather than jutting out the side.......ps,at the tightening of the leader to main line just pull the main line thru another couple of inches before you finish the knot......cos at first tighten its a weak point......

hope this helps kstaff..........

[jay k]

i've only started using a multi . said id try the albright knot and its failed me twice,last night the latest example.

using the uni knot again now, its what im used to from the fixed spool,only took about 5 mins or so to tie it last night.

[red]

Kstaff askin how to tie a knot, what next? How to peel a crab? How to thread on a lug? next time your around let the west cork lads know and we can set up a lesson on rigs and knots for ya

All ive ever used is the albright knot. First with ultima distance and for the last 2 years with suffix tritanium both in .35m to either 50 or 60lb powerflex. Ive never had any issues with it.

[Shambo]

Been using a blob knot recently myself, no complaints so far http://www.ultimauk.com/sea/knots/Blob.php

[The Austrian]

Been using a blob knot recently myself, no complaints so far http://www.ultimauk.com/sea/knots/Blob.php

second that, quick and easy to tie, a very neat but strong knot. Never has let me down.

[SirSquiglum]

I have been using the spider hitch knot for the last year and i have had no problems with it at all. Good all rounder IMO!!

[SlackLiner]

Apologies for causing offense but that video is awful! It missed two major safety points and one minor practicality issue. Firstly the minor -you can trim those tabs much shorter than that, esp on the shockleader as that will catch your tip eye and every piece of weed it touches which will drive you mad! Secondly when you first tighen the shockleader onto the mainline in the first step you MUST pull the mainline through the knot! The initial tightening of the shockleader on the mainline will kink the mainline underneath, creating a weak point in the line, and you must pull this through so its out of the knot. I only put about an inch of mainline into the first knot, tighten and pull the mainline though to form the loop in the mainline making sure the damaged bit is not in the knot itself and will be trimmed off. Lastly you must moisten the knot with saliva when pulling it tight, this will stop damage to both lines through friction. This is a great knot if done right, I use it all the time, but very weak if done wrong! Just some observations that might save someone a lost fish or two...

[lugworm]

Apologies for causing offense but that video is awful! It missed two major safety points and one minor practicality issue. Firstly the minor -you can trim those tabs much shorter than that, esp on the shockleader as that will catch your tip eye and every piece of weed it touches which will drive you mad! Secondly when you first tighen the shockleader onto the mainline in the first step you MUST pull the mainline through the knot! The initial tightening of the shockleader on the mainline will kink the mainline underneath, creating a weak point in the line, and you must pull this through so its out of the knot. I only put about an inch of mainline into the first knot, tighten and pull the mainline though to form the loop in the mainline making sure the damaged bit is not in the knot itself and will be trimmed off. Lastly you must moisten the knot with saliva when pulling it tight, this will stop damage to both lines through friction. This is a great knot if done right, I use it all the time, but very weak if done wrong! Just some observations that might save someone a lost fish or two...

good man yerself........great minds think alike

[rocketman]

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become profficient at tying the bimini twist and youll never use any other shockleader knot. very simple with practice.


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[kstaff]

Cheers all for taking the time to reply, it's rare I have an issue with that stanard one but for the life of me it simply wouldnt tie. I'll do the same lines again tonight and may offer a reward to whomever ties the knot i was trying to do without it failing on test!!!

The Big Knot Open is born !!!!

[razor2]

Cheers all for taking the time to reply, it's rare I have an issue with that stanard one but for the life of me it simply wouldnt tie. I'll do the same lines again tonight and may offer a reward to whomever ties the knot i was trying to do without it failing on test!!!

The Big Knot Open is born !!!!

Knot of the month Kstaff. I will get your prize in the post all i can say is thumbs up to this man he did something for my son awhile back that not many would do. thanks again

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Which knot were you trying to tie and what mainline were you using?

[spidercrab]

probably the most important knot to know how to do properly , and at the highest level you should be able to do this in your sleep ?
i suppose we all forget sometimes

[kstaff]

Ahh the highest level, if only Sam

Tell you what, we will meet up and if you can do the knot ( without me pulling it apart under testing pressure) I was doing with the lines I was using I'll eat a raw fish!

[sea serpant]

the spider hitch much like the bimini but much simpler to tie on a windy beach and hasnt failed me yet

[fishy1987]

The Albright Knot?There are a few variations of it from what ive been looking at recently,I dont have faith in my leader connection of old and want to get a solid leader knot naturally!The albright is very quick to tie,neat and strong.(from the below video)and i want to use it.

Heres One of the videos ive been looking at.Just wondering can it be used For mono to mono?It only seems to be Referred In tying A braid to Mono!

And also five tuns up and down?Every video seems to have differnet ideas on that i.e 10turns etc!Sorry for hijacking your post!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92R9F9ZNi2I

[Firbolg]

I like this one, 7 times up and 7 times back,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Youn57KGNzA