help with vintage rod i.d please

[lucky13]

dug me old spinning rod outa the shed,my very 1st rod,a 7 ft spinning rod,that was bought for me in the 80`s,funny thing is i forgot what make it is and i used to read it every time i cast a german spratt,and i know tis a fairly handy rod as i was always told to look after it because it cost a few bob back then,still have the reel for it too,any help on what it looks like or what it could be would be apprciated greatly.cheers lads.

[dave316]

My dad and I had 2 of those in different sizes, stiff heavy buggers but that's what we used in the mid 80's: It is a Daiwa rod

[Eddiewamblambbam]

they dont make them like they used te ! are ye sellin her ?

[ShaneH]

its a abu

[dave316]

No way, people want to buy rods like that - I just dumped the 2 of them a year ago!!

[Eddiewamblambbam]

vintage is the new new ...

[lucky13]

My dad and I had 2 of those in different sizes, stiff heavy buggers but that's what we used in the mid 80's: It is a Daiwa rod

ah shes not too heavy or stiff,thers deadly lil whip off her....what makes ya think its a daiwa? any tell tale signs...
cheers lad

[lucky13]

they dont make them like they used te ! are ye sellin her ?

no eddie lad,couldnt do that,tis me first rod.ever.if i am tho ill give ya a shout.cheers for the pms on the jupiter z.

[lucky13]

No way, people want to buy rods like that - I just dumped the 2 of them a year ago!!

aw lad,ya should never throw away old gear like that,if your throwing away any more man pm me.

[lucky13]

its a abu

cheers for the reply,but what makes ya think shes an abu?

[ShaneH]

its a abu

cheers for the reply,but what makes ya think shes an abu?

all the vintage abu rods look the same

[The Austrian]

All the vintage ABU's from the 70's have a full cork grip as far as I'm aware of.
I had one of their first 3pce Diplomat hollowglass rods and a few others manufactured previously about 45 years ago )
This one hasn't, and there was no shortage of good quality cork oak at the time, so it looks like a remake or copy to me, the bright red whipping is a bit duller than in the original ABU's and the reel seat is more modern being red anodised Aluminium, a feasible process for mass marketing being invented only in the late 70's.
I'd reckon it's a remake or a copy of one of the original orange ABU full fiberglass blank spinning rods from another competing tackle company at this time. FWIW.

[JOHN1]

The few vintage ABU's I have from the 70's atlantic 403zoom, a 484 and a boat rod have ABU on the bottom of their butt caps, have a look you might be surprised.
To be honest the rod dont seem to have the look of ABU quality about it.
the rings are the same type that is on the 403 thats about it

[The Austrian]

precisely John, I cant imagine that this rod is a genuine ABU, far too cheap looking, nevertheless I'm far off to be an expert...

[sandblaster]

i have the same rod in a different size my rod was built by peter horn and your rod looks the same even that worn foil label

[JOHN1]

i have the same rod in a different size my rod was built by peter horn and your rod looks the same even that worn foil label

So what make is your Rod then.

[sandblaster]

i think he bought in the blanks either from west cork (clonakilty) or england and then just built the rods himself from spinning rods to beach rods and they were tidy rods too.

[lucky13]

All the vintage ABU's from the 70's have a full cork grip as far as I'm aware of.
I had one of their first 3pce Diplomat hollowglass rods and a few others manufactured previously about 45 years ago )
This one hasn't, and there was no shortage of good quality cork oak at the time, so it looks like a remake or copy to me, the bright red whipping is a bit duller than in the original ABU's and the reel seat is more modern being red anodised Aluminium, a feasible process for mass marketing being invented only in the late 70's.
I'd reckon it's a remake or a copy of one of the original orange ABU full fiberglass blank spinning rods from another competing tackle company at this time. FWIW.

cheers for the info austrian..intersting stuff..the whippin is brown tho,always has been...i think the reel seat is brass too,with brass strip whipping just above the cork...the reel seat nuts for squeezing onto the reel are two seperate parts also,one about ten mil thick the other about 5.hope this helps in id'ing it...im mad to find out..cheers for the help

[lucky13]

The few vintage ABU's I have from the 70's atlantic 403zoom, a 484 and a boat rod have ABU on the bottom of their butt caps, have a look you might be surprised.
To be honest the rod dont seem to have the look of ABU quality about it.
the rings are the same type that is on the 403 thats about it

i checked,no sign of any marking ever being there on the butt cap...but thanx for the info john

[lucky13]

precisely John, I cant imagine that this rod is a genuine ABU, far too cheap looking, nevertheless I'm far off to be an expert...

she may not be an abu,but she did cost a couple of bob back in the day.i was told/warned to look after it,so...there was reason behind me scrubbin the thing down (maybe too hard) after each session...