ray are they flat or round

[fisherman59]

this has puzzled me for years? i regard all ray as flatfish yet when it comes to optional pools payout in comps they are classed as roundfish why

[bigsod]

They are classed as flat fish in our club ECR

[saving private brian]

flats are the likes of flounders,turbots,brills,megrims etc and the rounds are whiting,small haddock,small codling etc

[Martin Mc Gowan]

Ray are classed as round fish in Tralee Bay Club so would class them as round

For Now

[The Austrian]

I classify all ray and skate as round fish as they have both eyes on the upperside of their body and the mouth on the underside from the first moment in their life unlike true flatfish. Furthermore they are members of the shark family which are all classed round fish. Anglerfish and monkfish are round fish too, despite their bodyshape.

[fisherman59]

i havea funny feeling this is a huge can of worms different provinces different opinions what is the ifsa ruling on this

[fisherman59]

flats are the likes of flounders,turbots,brills,megrims etc and the rounds are whiting,small haddock,small codling etc

stating the obvious

[Al]

flats are the likes of flounders,turbots,brills,megrims etc and the rounds are whiting,small haddock,small codling etc

Yeah....but what about the Ray

[saving private brian]

triangulars

flats are the likes of flounders,turbots,brills,megrims etc and the rounds are whiting,small haddock,small codling etc

Yeah....but what about the Ray

[doggie3131]

well...that cleared that up then!!

[fisherman59]

just to get back to original post does ifsa have a ruling on this as it is so confusing that different provinces differ as to weather it is flat or round i mean how can somebody win best round with a ray in leinster and best flat with a ray in munster?

[bootster]

The NFSA and SMAF both class them as round fish. I'm sure if somebody is a bit of biology geek they'd be able to let us know the scientific classification of them. As far as I'm concerned they're round even if they're a little on the flat side.

[corbyeire]

most of the major competitions at this stage are measuring them nose to tail so in effect they are being treated as round in that sense

they are from the shark family with cartilaginous skeletons rather than bone whereas the true flatties are all bony fish

[wooler]

I thought because they are a member of the shark family or closely related to sharks they are classed as a round fish???

I dont fish matches so it doesnt really matter to me.

............only just read the post above mine, i think you are right corbyeire.

[shamoo0804]

flats are the likes of flounders,turbots,brills,megrims etc and the rounds are whiting,small haddock,small codling etc

What about big haddock and big codling

Are they round or flat

Sorry couldnt resist

[chuckaroo]

flats are the likes of flounders,turbots,brills,megrims etc and the rounds are whiting,small haddock,small codling etc

What about big haddock and big codling

Are they round or flat

Sorry couldnt resist

and what about just plain big cod?
just had to
sorry
it stops here

i reckon ray are flattened round fish too.

[mickeyfish]

Lads does anybody have an official ruling on this.

as the only reference to ray in the ifsa diary in the general competition regulations section 11 is that. Ray are measured on wingspan for culinary use at 45cm

also it refers to flatfish not a specific species just flatfish as 25cm for culinary use

does this actually seperate the two saying that ray are a roundfish and measured on wingspan not lenght as it is stated that all clubs must observe these measurements not to take one for culinary use under wingspan of 45 cm

i would be grateful of any factual clarification

regards

mick barry

[mickeyfish]

Lads can anybody add to this