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[ardinn]

Hi

I have been making my own rigs now for a while and enjoying learning and experimenting with new ones and making variations of popular ones.

I started reading threads from 2004 (page 222.) as to stop annoying people with questions that have been asked before and work my way forward (might take a while)

So, I came across a thread on beads, And whether or not to start using them on rigs! My general opinion was that beads were used alongside crimps to stop things moving. But the thread related to the attractiveness of the rig itself, the thread went on to discuss sequins and flashy bits and pieces to use as attractors etc.

So what do you use your beads for, is it worth getting sequins and various bits of flashy yokes to tie onto rigs - Personally I actually got thinking why wouldnt you, they hardly scare fish away!!

Please enlighten me before I start making rigs in the style of (edit) ardi Gras dresses!!!


Also I have no Idea why the thread is linking random things ive typed! I didnt do it!!!!

[Rob Millard]

Prepare to get 100 different opinions. When I'm targeting Bass & Hounds I don't use beads, or sequins. If I'm after flounders, dabs etc etc, a bit of flash or bling doesn't do any harm. That's my opinion.

[ardinn]

Prepare to get 100 different opinions.

Hope so

[lad123]

i fish in the waterford stuary - whiting codling dabs flounder
i tried all types of rigs
this is as good as anything : tie a loop on the main line and tie a snood of the loop and tie the lead to the bottom
this is working as well as anything , no jokes

[ste c]

Less is more for me plain simple rigs clear snoods and clear rig body

[feathers]

people get carried away with rigs

[ardinn]

But sure a well dressed rig would be more attractive? But plain and simple also has it's merits. I might try fishing both for a day and check the results with the same conditions. Anyone done similar?

[beachbuddy]

this is as good as anything : tie a loop on the main line and tie a snood of the loop and tie the lead to the bottom
this is working as well as anything , no jokes

Out of curiousity with this particular rig do you use any shockleader or is it a heavier type of mono as I would just be wondering would a person lose a lot of mainline should a hook snood get snagged and snap and also any knots in a mainline causes weak points which could result in crack offs and leads flying off in all directions.
Whatever rig a person uses I think its always advisable to use the best components available for two reasons 1st its the link between landing the fish of a lifetime [or not]2nd ensuring that my rigs are safe to be using especially when other members of the public are in my vicinity .
Whatever rigs a person uses try have the best bait on the business end and no point in using monster hooks and baits if its only pin whitting and palm sized flounder in front of you.
A well known match angler from England has a saying clipdown rigs for show and flappers for dough!

[lad123]

this is as good as anything : tie a loop on the main line and tie a snood of the loop and tie the lead to the bottom
this is working as well as anything , no jokes

Out of curiousity with this particular rig do you use any shockleader or is it a heavier type of mono as I would just be wondering would a person lose a lot of mainline should a hook snood get snagged and snap and also any knots in a mainline causes weak points which could result in crack offs and leads flying off in all directions.
Whatever rig a person uses I think its always advisable to use the best components available for two reasons 1st its the link between landing the fish of a lifetime [or not]2nd ensuring that my rigs are safe to be using especially when other members of the public are in my vicinity .
Whatever rigs a person uses try have the best bait on the business end and no point in using monster hooks and baits if its only pin whitting and palm sized flounder in front of you.
A well known match angler from England has a saying clipdown rigs for show and flappers for dough!

i use a 40lb breaking strain line to withstand the pressure of casting
when im fishing for the whiting small cod and flatfish i use the loop on the mainline and if there is bigger cod around i use a swivel instead of a loop

[ardinn]

Just made some plain and some Flashy rigs - I will run the simulator!!!

[pollachius virens]

I use beads and sequins on most of my rigs but they are used mainly to produce sound and not as a visionary aid. A sequin or blade that can flutter in the water will emit pressure waves that can be picked up by a fishes lateral line. Certain fish are definitely attracted to blades or sequins but it won't work in all situations. You'll have to experiment in different venues. I don't put too much stock into line colour. For many years I won a lot of competitions while using Orange Greased Weasel for my rig bodies. It never put fish off.

One thing a lot of anglers don't realise is that fish don't pick up colour in the dark, in other words, your snood line can be pink with green polka dots and it won't make any difference. In fact, if you make up a 2 hook trace with one snood clear, and another snood coloured, and if you use identically sized and similar baits, then I guarantee you that over an extended period of time night fishing, one snood won't outfish another.

At the end of the day, the quality of your bait should be your number one consideration. This is ultimately what's going to get fish onto your hook.

[ardinn]

One thing a lot of anglers don't realise is that fish don't pick up colour in the dark, in other words, your snood line can be pink with green polka dots and it won't make any difference. In fact, if you make up a 2 hook trace with one snood clear, and another snood coloured, and if you use identically sized and similar baits, then I guarantee you that over an extended period of time night fishing, one snood won't outfish another.

What do you think about the size of snood - Im using 40lb main line and the 20lb line I have is very old and brittle, I have no issue getting some more but was wondering would the 40lb be ok as a snood?

[red]

40lb snood is very thick. Most of my fishing is done over sand and the heaviest i go is 25lb if targeting ray. Most of the time for general fishing id have 15/20lb and if fishing for flats or other small fish in close i go as low as 8/10lb.

[pollachius virens]

Ardinn, if you mean what length should a snood be, that depends on a number of factors; what species are you fishing for?, what bait are you using?, what is the current like - slack or moving? I personally use 18 inch snoods on my flappers for general beach work but it's not unheard of for me to use up to 36 inches in certain situations, though these are uncommon enough. I personally prefer long snoods on pulley rigs but friends of mine use much shorter than I do and we all have success. Definitely change your line. Brittle line will break. It's extremely dangerous to use and can result in injury if, God forbid, you get a crack off. 40lb snood line is too heavy for most situations you will encounter. Here's a really useful link to an article on rigs on the Tralee Bay Sea Angling website. It will hopefully help you out a bit. http://traleebayseaangling.ie/rigs.html

[ardinn]

Thanks for that i will have a look - before i do and this q may be answered in the link you just posted but what snood line is the best for hanging away from the main line - as in my 15lb line is too loose (not rigid enough) and hangs straight down - is there any particular type that is thin yet stiff enough to fall away at an arc??

[shortcircuit]

Thanks for that i will have a look - before i do and this q may be answered in the link you just posted but what snood line is the best for hanging away from the main line - as in my 15lb line is too loose (not rigid enough) and hangs straight down - is there any particular type that is thin yet stiff enough to fall away at an arc??

Your only man for snood line is Amnesia. It's nice and supple for knotting yet has a bit of rigidity.

If you're looking for a very rigid line, you can use flourocarbon. I have found it tough to tie knots with though.

[lucky13]

Thanks for that i will have a look - before i do and this q may be answered in the link you just posted but what snood line is the best for hanging away from the main line - as in my 15lb line is too loose (not rigid enough) and hangs straight down - is there any particular type that is thin yet stiff enough to fall away at an arc??

most traces hang straight down as you put it,snood next to trunk,its the current that will animate your snood,if you feel you need an arcing type effect to keep your snood away from your trunk,maybe you should try booming your snood or using plastic tubing,i think one of the lads on here posted before that he uses the tubing from surface cleanser bottles,i usually use a clipped down trace to stop tangles if thats the problem,just insure your snood is shorter than your trunk and clip down.
on the beads and sequins story,i went down that road too and to be honest i wouldnt bother at all at all other than for flattie bashing,where i really like to use black and green beads or black and orange,to bead or not to bead is one thing,but for flatfish, colours is another crow to pick...

[lucky13]

Thanks for that i will have a look - before i do and this q may be answered in the link you just posted but what snood line is the best for hanging away from the main line - as in my 15lb line is too loose (not rigid enough) and hangs straight down - is there any particular type that is thin yet stiff enough to fall away at an arc??

Your only man for snood line is Amnesia. It's nice and supple for knotting yet has a bit of rigidity.

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[Fishy Wishy]

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