Beads and crimps

[Firbolg]

Just wondering are they really necessary for making rigs? Can they scare fish away?

[saving private brian]

well i dont know about scareing the fish away,that could be a load of bull.but i use beads in my rig making.i used to use crimps but have stopped now.i find there is no need for them and there hassel , some people will differ thou but thats other peoples opinions

[doggie3131]

if you tie your own rigs then there a neccessity,and don't ask about cascade swivels,flouro,or any of the rest of the wallet robbing sweeties! i tie all my own rigs,and i would be lost without all the nicnacks!

[polaris]

beads and crimps are essential in rig tying,,,if your just useing knots to keep your beads in place,knots are a weak link and it could make the difference in loosing a fish and landing a fish,,,

[Sweetwrasse]

I tie a lot of 2 and 3 hook flappers just by using a dropper loop and then cutting one side of the loop to attach the hook which needs no beads and no crimps at all! I find these are grand for scratching about in the surf, although they can tangle more easily. I use crimps and beads for distance rigs just in case something bigger shows up As for scaring fish away, some rigs use coloured beads to attract fish but it'll depend on the species, conditions etc..

[Al]

beads and crimps are essential in rig tying,,,if your just useing knots to keep your beads in place,knots are a weak link and it could make the difference in loosing a fish and landing a fish,,,

If you use stop knots instead of crimps there is no weak link, and even if the knot slips the swivel will still be attached to the main line.


I wouldn't say that crimps would scare fish away, people use beads and sequins and flounder spoons etc and still catch fish, and these would be beside the bait...I find crimps handy and time saving myself, I only use stop knots on my clipped rigs incase of stretched line.

[dfella25]

What line/knot is used for the stopknots? I use crimps and micro beads to keep a trace as invisible as possible but I'd say the stopknot would be handy on clipdowns alright.

[The Austrian]

I use pole elastic for all my stopknots (instead of the expensive power gum) also as most pole elastic is brightly coloured, its a brilliant distance marker and it doesn't damage the line at all.

[macka1]

i use elastic bands,cheap and cheerfull and works too....

[Al]

i use elastic bands,cheap and cheerfull and works too....

Yeah elastic bands are good for stopknots on snoods alright, I wouldn't use them as a replacement for crimps though as they will just slip.

Conor I use power gum or 10/15lb Amnesia for my stop knots..If I use stop knots instead of crimps on my clipped rigs I always put two under the bottom bead, makes it a lot less susceptible to slipping

[polaris]

beads and crimps are essential in rig tying,,,if your just useing knots to keep your beads in place,knots are a weak link and it could make the difference in loosing a fish and landing a fish,,,

stop knots and power gum work a treat,,,but iv seen people tying an actuall knot in the main line above and below ther beads,,,mite work for a wile,,but will lead to a weak link,,,i,ll stick to me crimps,


If you use stop knots instead of crimps there is no weak link, and even if the knot slips the swivel will still be attached to the main line.


I wouldn't say that crimps would scare fish away, people use beads and sequins and flounder spoons etc and still catch fish, and these would be beside the bait...I find crimps handy and time saving myself, I only use stop knots on my clipped rigs incase of stretched line.

[piscator]

Hy there,
I don't know what kind of line you people use for making rig bodies. But is there anyone who really thinks you can break 30 pound line or more on a knot playing a fish or whilst casting??
Maybe on a granny,but as long as there are 90-95 % knots or better, I wouldn't worry.Using beads, crimps and all that is a choise.If circumstances require it ,please use them.You want to attract fish,add coloured beads that glow like a nuclear powerplant or anyting you think the aimed species is attracted to.Or on the othet hand makes eveything as invisible as a white cloth on a skypiste Want to make rigs low cost because of a tackle graveyard or just to save money,all right.Its a matter of taste .

The fact that well build rigs do the job better,is no point of discussion,it's true. But there's so much stuff only ment to catch anglers on the market,we need indeed watch our wallet.

Piscator

[hugo]

but iv seen people tying an actuall knot in the main line above and below ther beads

Dont think thats a great idea, a knot in the line definitely reduces the BS a good bit, and OK it might not matter for dabs etc, but what if you hook into an unexpected decent fish?
Apart from that, it just looks crap. As the man sez, well-presented rigs catch more fish.

[Drew]

Lo there,
Saw this thread and figured I'd throw another penny into the pot.
Though I havent been using it for my clipped rigs I have been using it for my close in scratching rigs...

You will need some rig tube with a 3-5 mm gap.

[Fecky]

Lo there,
Saw this thread and figured I'd throw another penny into the pot.
Though I havent been using it for my clipped rigs I have been using it for my close in scratching rigs...

You will need some rig tube with a 3-5 mm gap.

Thanks Drew, Just what I was searching for.