Short / long Spined Sea scorpion?

[fishy1987]

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[Al and Jordan]

the first one is hard to say as it's an overview, but i'd guesstimate it's a ss
the second one is a ls
the third one looks like a ss

the short spined sea scorpion (father lasher) can grow in excess of 40cm and get to over 2lb
where as the long spined sea scorpion is the smaller of the species generally not getting over 20cm
hope this helps man, but just remember this is only my opinion from my own experience.
i'm sure other lads might have differing ideas.

[syboit]

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some nice pics there, you are picking up a good variety of species.

[macka1]

Are these fellas poisonous,curious because of their looks and spines ....

[fishy1987]

Are these fellas poisonous,curious because of their looks and spines ....

The first 1 i caught in monkstown gave me a sting through the glove very sore but i do not think they are poisonous,saying that when i got my latest one last night i was very tentative touching him.

[fishy1987]

the first one is hard to say as it's an overview, but i'd guesstimate it's a ss
the second one is a ls
the third one looks like a ss

the short spined sea scorpion (father lasher) can grow in excess of 40cm and get to over 2lb
where as the long spined sea scorpion is the smaller of the species generally not getting over 20cm
hope this helps man, but just remember this is only my opinion from my own experience.
i'm sure other lads might have differing ideas.

thanks very much!its hard to make the difference i was looking up on them but still am unsure.appreciate it :)this is the only other pic
of the first one but its not in gr8 detail!

[Al and Jordan]

no probs man and never worry about those wee fish. totally harmless in the venom department. they just have a few spikes around the head that can jab you. but no worse than a prick from the dorsal of a wrasse or bass

[macka1]

Thanks for replies lads,so their not poisonous then.Caught one before and played safe,wasnt letting them spines anyway near me

[donal domeney]

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[fishy1987]

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donal as helpful as always god they look very similar allthough the first dorsal fin on the ss scorpion starts further down the back from the head of the fish than the ls which is a great way to distinguish between them.cheers ugly and all as they are still a mini species

tightlines

[donal domeney]

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donal as helpful as always god they look very similar allthough the first dorsal fin on the ss scorpion starts further down the back from the head of the fish than the ls which is a great way to distinguish between them.cheers ugly and all as they are still a mini species

tightlines

Also count the number of spines in each of the dorsal fins they differ in each species

[fishy1987]

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ok so im taking it as 1st pic and 3rd short spined and 2nd ls:)thats it i can go to sleep at night

[southaussie]

hi fishy1987 i caught one last week and loved the way they growled and vibrated when outa the water i was carefull like yourself not knowing if they were poisonous or not, well done on getting both species

[donal domeney]

The Rottweiler version caught from De Wall

[razor2]

did he eat your dog donal it looks like it

[fishy1987]

did he eat your dog donal it looks like it

i woulndt be suprised ss?

[goldfish17]

Are the long spined gennerally more blue underneath then the short spined??

[fishy1987]

Are the long spined gennerally more blue underneath then the short spined??

well if im right and 1. ss 2. ls 3. ss theni wthing you could be riight that the longspined sea scorpion has more colour variations but not 100%