species i.d. please

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species i.d. please

#1 Post by doggie3131 »

we were fishing over the belmullet area,and jason landed two of these,we all had a look but none of us knew what it was,got a coalie/pollock shape,but with seatrout colours,no teeth like a whiting,no barbul like a cod, any guesses folks??
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species 2012.........(12)seatrout,bass,turbot,flounder,brill,lsd,coalie,shore rockling,pollock,pout,poor cod,gray gurnard

species 2011 (20) flounder,whiting,poor cod,5 beard rockling,lsd.coalie,thornie,three bearded rockling,shore rockling.seatrout.turbot,plaice,brill,pollock,ballen wrasse.huss,pout,cookoo wrasse,corking wrasse,dab.

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#2 Post by JOHN1 »

coalie :wink:
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#3 Post by saving private brian »

ya neol its a coalie
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#4 Post by stevecrow74 »

its not a bass noel... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mind you us Galway lads wouldn't believe you anyway!!

but yeah.. its a coalfish

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#5 Post by Davy Holt »

Hiya,

Yup as already said it's a Coalie / Coalfish/ Saithe (Pollachius virens)
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#6 Post by rustyhookthomas »

deffo a Haddock Noel, notice the dark "fingerprint" on the lateral line behind the fin!
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rustyhookthomas wrote:deffo a Haddock Noel, notice the dark "fingerprint" on the lateral line behind the fin!
Nice fishing there lads.
:shock: are you for real thomas :? did you ever see a Haddock in the flesh :?:
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#8 Post by doggie3131 »

well,it had the coalie/pollock fins all right,but the lower jaw was wrong for a coalie,the colour was all wrong,and the shape of the fish was wrong for a coalie/pollock.there were five of us fishing and none of us had seen one like that before.
species 2012.........(12)seatrout,bass,turbot,flounder,brill,lsd,coalie,shore rockling,pollock,pout,poor cod,gray gurnard

species 2011 (20) flounder,whiting,poor cod,5 beard rockling,lsd.coalie,thornie,three bearded rockling,shore rockling.seatrout.turbot,plaice,brill,pollock,ballen wrasse.huss,pout,cookoo wrasse,corking wrasse,dab.

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doggie3131 wrote:well,it had the coalie/pollock fins all right,but the lower jaw was wrong for a coalie,the colour was all wrong,and the shape of the fish was wrong for a coalie/pollock.there were five of us fishing and none of us had seen one like that before.
it's still a coalie :wink:


we get loads of them along the east coast with the same colouration and the small speckles.
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JOHN1 wrote:
doggie3131 wrote:well,it had the coalie/pollock fins all right,but the lower jaw was wrong for a coalie,the colour was all wrong,and the shape of the fish was wrong for a coalie/pollock.there were five of us fishing and none of us had seen one like that before.
it's still a coalie :wink:


we get loads of them along the east coast with the same colouration and the small speckles.


Yep!

definitely a coalie and definitely not a haddock!
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#11 Post by Davy Murdoch »

100% coalie
100% not a haddock!!!!
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the lateral line is definetely a coalies
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doggie3131 wrote:well,it had the coalie/pollock fins all right,but the lower jaw was wrong for a coalie,the colour was all wrong,and the shape of the fish was wrong for a coalie/pollock.there were five of us fishing and none of us had seen one like that before.
Well Noel, it was definitely coalie! The reason ye hadn't seen it before is down to the fact ye haven't fished to many beaches in Galway :-). Coalies are fairly common on Galway beaches. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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#14 Post by rustyhookthomas »

i guess i'm well wrong here and it's a coalie! :oops: :? :D
fingerprint mark behind the lateral fin made me think otherwise!
nice fishing all the same Noel.
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#15 Post by donal domeney »

Well done to fishingking for giving a reason with his answer.
The difference between the pollack and coalfish are here

POLLACK
Three dorsal, two anal fins. Pelvic fins tiny. Tail-fin not forked when expanded. Lower jaw protruding; no barbel. Lateral line a brown seam sharply bent behind pectoral fin. Usually brown on the back, with gold or orange reflections on the side. Grows to about 20 lb.


COALFISH
Three dorsal, two anal fins. Pelvic fins tiny. Tail-fin forked. Lower jaw the shorter in young juveniles, but protruding in larger examples. A barbel present, but so minute as not to be noticeable. Lateral line a white stripe, nearly straight (not marked by a white stripe in young juveniles). Dark green or blackish green above, paler on the sides.


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Specimen Fish 2024: Shore Rockling (3) 36cm, 34cm, 31cm; Thick Lipped Mullet (2) 58cm, 57cm; Smooth Hound (1) 109cm; Sting Ray (1)125cm; Ballan Wrasse (1) 48cm ; Corkwing Wrasse (1) 24.8cm. Golden Grey Mullet (2) 43cm, 1.8lb; 40.6cm, 1.55lb;
Total species boat/shore: 45
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#16 Post by Drew »

It's a Spekled Sewer Trout! Also known as a Keeky Bay Flounder!
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