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#1 Post by **flowerpower26** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:00 pm

Hello from Germany ,
I'm living part of the year in my house in Burtonport , Co Donegal. I read a lot about wreck angling and would like to try this. Anybody any idea how i'm able to find out about the position of a wreck within reach from Burtonport harbour ?

Thanks in advance for every hint
Cheers Werner

#2 Post by **JOHN1** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:21 pm

Hi flowerpower26 and welcome,you could try this link if it's a charter trip for wreck fishing you are looking for.

www.donegalseaangling.com

#3 Post by **Tanglerat** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:08 pm

Welcome to the site.

Will you fish from your own boat, or from a charter boat? If from a charter, that's a good boat in john1's link. If from a charter, will you be going as an individual, chartering it for yourself, or as part of a club?

#4 Post by **flowerpower26** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:12 pm

Hello , thanks for your fast answers.
I know the boat you are recommending , but I thougt to go with my boat and a friend with his boat. So it shouldn't be too far offshore. My boat is on a trailer so I could as well easyly move to somewhere else.
Anybody in this forum from Burtonport area , who would like to join ? I hope to be back in Ireland end of January. Its always more fun and a lot saver to be with two boats.
My boat is a 5,20m open boat and I'm longing for better weather and the next angling trip.
Cheers Werner

Tanglerat wrote:Welcome to the site.

Will you fish from your own boat, or from a charter boat? If from a charter, that's a good boat in john1's link. If from a charter, will you be going as an individual, chartering it for yourself, or as part of a club?

#5 Post by **Tanglerat** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:40 pm

Be careful putting out to sea at that time of year in that area. It's not for novices or learners.

I don't think we have anyone from Burtonport on this site. Either myself or pete would be nearest, that run small boats. I don't have much first-hand knowledge of fishing around there, to be honest.

One guy you might try to get in touch with is John Rafferty, the photographer, journalist and author of "Sea Angling in Ireland". He's based over that way and seemed like a good guy when I met him. His website is here.

jrafferty · #6 Post by **jrafferty** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:43 pm

Wreck angling out of burtonport at this time of year is not for the faint hearted as most wrecks are a good distance from the coast, there is however one small wreck called the Boniface which is close enough to the shore, it's situated about 7miles NW of Owey island and can occasionally fish well. but I think your best bet is to fish some of the deeper reefs closer to land, they usually fish well all year round with good pollack, ling and the occasional cod appearing amongst the catches.
All the best,
John.

#7 Post by **flowerpower26** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:14 pm

Thanks for all your tips. I think I will not be going there this time of the year , but maybe later the year in fair weather.
Anyway , I'm thinking about buying a different boat . After reading a lot I thougt about an
Orkney 520. It is somewhat similar to my boat now , but I would like to have a cuddy and remote control. I like semi displacement hulls as I found they work well in this area.
Anything I have to keep in mind when buying one ? What do you think about this type ore would you recommend something different. I don't like planer with big engines as this time you have to think about fuel consumption as well and there is no need to speed around.
Hope to be soon back fishing Werner

#8 Post by **Tanglerat** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:12 pm

Hard to beat an Orkney

, but if you're going to be running around chasing marks then a bit of speed is very handy. What boat are you running at he moment?

As for wrecks in that area, I've been having a nose around the internet and found a couple inshore, that should be handy enough to reach. I don't know if they're fishable or not, or if reaching the area is safe from hazards. They look intriguing, though.

John, do you know anything about fishing the wrecks of the Skifjord or the Eleftherios?

jrafferty · #9 Post by **jrafferty** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:27 pm

I own my own boat, it's a MG 640 (Very similar to a quicksilver 640) I have a 150hp engine on it, not because I'm a speed junky but because I like to get to where i'm fishing quickly (once there the engine is switched off), if I want to shift fishing grounds it can be done at the drop of a hat and if I'm fishing offshore and the weather changes for the worse, I can get home in minutes.

I fished the Skifjord a few times without much success but the reef beside it can often produce good results. As for the Eleftherios it was scattered along the shoreline so there's not much of it to fish over. There are a few reefs close to land that are excellent at times, one is Mallagh rock which is quite visible, it has a light beacon built on top of it, another is called Scotia, it has about 40 ft of water on the top of it and falls away to 90 ft. There is also one west of the lighthouse on Arranmore island, this is an excellent reef to fish but you need pretty good weather to fish it. These are just a few of the main reefs I fish, there are loads more that are also very good to fish. A good reef in the right location will often fish as good as a wreck.

On a slightly different subject, the sand fishing in the burtonport area has been excellent over the last year or so because of the ban on most commercial fishing in Area VIa.

#10 Post by **flowerpower26** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:00 pm

Tanglerat wrote:Hard to beat an Orkney , but if you're going to be running around chasing marks then a bit of speed is very handy. What boat are you running at he moment?

As for wrecks in that area, I've been having a nose around the internet and found a couple inshore, that should be handy enough to reach. I don't know if they're fishable or not, or if reaching the area is safe from hazards. They look intriguing, though.

John, do you know anything about fishing the wrecks of the Skifjord or the Eleftherios?

Hi Tanglerat

My boat at present is a selfbuild copy of an Uttern520 from Finland. I try to attach an foto.

#11 Post by **Tanglerat** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:47 pm

Nice looking boat. if you built it yourself, have you considered adding a cab, console, and remote steering yourself? Could be a nice project if you're handy with it.

#12 Post by **flowerpower26** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:48 pm

Yes , thought about that and wouldn't have been any problem. But due to health problems , I decided to finish with dusty jobs like sanding and paintjobs. The other thing is that converting the engine and getting all the bits and parts is quite expensive.
Werner

#13 Post by **irishron40** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:14 pm

Hallo, flowerpower , wie geht's dir heute .

Im from holland but my german isnt what it used to be lol

have a wreck lat and long for you at donegal.

54.39.55 N 08.50.10 W Rathlin byrne Donegal

I myself always fish donegalbay as I am in Sligo

Have a look here and click on boat names. it then will give you all the details including lat and long
http://www.irishwrecksonline.net/LatestUpdates.htm

regards

ron

jrafferty · #14 Post by **jrafferty** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:43 pm

Hello Ron, That's a fair distance for Werner to travel, he's based in Burtonport. As a matter of interest do you know the name of the wreck at 54.39.55 N 08.50.10 W Rathlin byrne?
All the best,
John.

#15 Post by **irishron40** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:46 pm

M.F.V. Carraig Una

ron

#16 Post by **irishron40** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:49 pm

here is the lat and long of a trawler that was delibaratly sunk in 1997 at st johnpoint

54.34.992 N 08.30.027 W st johns point sank 1997

ron

jrafferty · #17 Post by **jrafferty** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:01 pm

Hello Ron,
The Carraig Una was a small wooden trawler which was badly broken up as she sank, I could be wrong but I don't think there is very much of it left intact now.
John.

#18 Post by **irishron40** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:10 pm

Badly broken up boats can still hold a lot of fish

ron

jrafferty · #19 Post by **jrafferty** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:44 pm

I agree Ron, but when this vessel sank in Nov 1976, it was badly broken up, so much so that a lot of its timbers were washed ashore at the time. Also the area where the wreck lies which is relatively shallow water gets battered by heavy seas during storms.

WRECK INFORMATION: when the vessel sank in 1976, five fishermen lost their lives.

All the best,
John.

#20 Post by **flowerpower26** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:05 pm

Hi Ron , mir geht es gut und ich hoffe dir auch.
What type of boat do you have ?
You guys are very lucky today sitting in Ireland. We are expected to get a blizzard tonight bringing additional 25cm snow with wind force7-8. So I'm staying at home tomorrow thinking about future fishing trips in Ireland.
By the way , John , you are an expert concerning fishing my area at Burtonport. Did you ever fish for flatfish at Keadue Bay ? Would you recommend to try?
All the best Werner

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