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#21 Post by **cortaz** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:30 pm

What are you sayin, COME OUT, put up your fists, grrrrr.. Grrrr.. GRRR. :lol: :lol: :lol:
2 swipes in as many days eoghan..... time to put in your place 8)
IF YOU CARED TO CHECK... most of the fish WERE taken at peak solar/lunar times,
YOU ////////// ME
26 bass //// 37 bass 8)
12 sessions //// 8 sessions
best day 14 //// best day 20 8)
avg. 2 //// avg 4.5 8)
biggest 5 lb.//// biggest 9.5lb 8)
blanks 6 //// blanks 0 8) .
yeah avaraged 2 small 2lb bass per. session and BLANKED 50% of the time, whats good about that :?: heaven eoghan is a few miles east of were yeah fished, some ppl. call it WATERFORD
charts;; i bet u looked at weather charts, tide charts,ect.before you went.
enough said..

#22 Post by **cortaz** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:35 pm

SeanP wrote:Cracking weekend there Eoghan, glad you put the moon phase mularky out the window :lol:
Sean,

hi sean
ever hear of my "cornflake theory"
its based on the princable that a "nod is the same as a wink to a blind horse"

#23 Post by KK » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:45 pm

All hail bass god...cortaz

#24 Post by KK » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:57 pm

Bass fishing could be a new religion. look at the trouble its starting alredy!!! Im a believer

#25 Post by **Eoghan** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:28 pm

cortaz wrote:What are you sayin, COME OUT, put up your fists, grrrrr.. Grrrr.. GRRR. :lol: :lol: :lol:
2 swipes in as many days eoghan..... time to put in your place 8)
IF YOU CARED TO CHECK... most of the fish WERE taken at peak solar/lunar times,
YOU ////////// ME
26 bass //// 37 bass 8)
12 sessions //// 8 sessions
best day 14 //// best day 20 8)
avg. 2 //// avg 4.5 8)
biggest 5 lb.//// biggest 9.5lb 8)
blanks 6 //// blanks 0 8) .
yeah avaraged 2 small 2lb bass per. session and BLANKED 50% of the time, whats good about that :?: heaven eoghan is a few miles east of were yeah fished, some ppl. call it WATERFORD
charts;; i bet u looked at weather charts, tide charts,ect.before you went.
enough said..

Dems is fightin words Cortaz. :D
Wasnt havin a pop at you at all.
I was more pointing out that you said in a PM that it would be a crap weekend to fish. All I am saying is that it wasnt by any means crap and that not to get too caught up in the solar charts etc...

Dude if I lived on or near the cunnigar and had fished it as many times I am sure I would have similar results. 8)
I get to fish Kerry twice a year and have to make the most of it and to be fair I think we did.

I wonder how many of the bass you caught at the weekend are still swimming in the sea...???? :wink:

I'll gladly invite you down with us in September and we'll see how you do..! :D

#26 Post by **Adam S** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:29 pm

now now lads , lets not get too competitive :D

as i had said in cotazs predicatable fishing thread in the tricks forum

http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/bull ... 4&start=60

moon phases are part of the story, but not all of it by any means.

right place, right rig, right bait, right tactics, right weather, right temperature, right water condition, right tide, right feeding triggers (including phase) are all factors in catching , no one alone will do the trick.

there is nothing new about fishing by moon phases, peak times and triggers, i had been made aware of it ten years ago and was using it and i know guys who have been using it since the early 80s. it does have an effect, by my results and i wouldnt doubt one bit thats its workingfor cortaz, but .....

if you are in a good mark, with good watercraft, good bait, good rig and favourable weather and a bad phase you may well catch.

if you are in a crap mark, with rubbish bait, poor presentation and awful conditions on a good phase chances are you wont catch much.

its not a be all and end all of fishing, just part of the story

#27 Post by **Eoghan** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:21 pm

Adam S wrote:now now lads , lets not get too competitive :D

as i had said in cotazs predicatable fishing thread in the tricks forum

http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/bull ... 4&start=60

moon phases are part of the story, but not all of it by any means.

right place, right rig, right bait, right tactics, right weather, right temperature, right water condition, right tide, right feeding triggers (including phase) are all factors in catching , no one alone will do the trick.

there is nothing new about fishing by moon phases, peak times and triggers, i had been made aware of it ten years ago and was using it and i know guys who have been using it since the early 80s. it does have an effect, by my results and i wouldnt doubt one bit thats its workingfor cortaz, but .....

if you are in a good mark, with good watercraft, good bait, good rig and favourable weather and a bad phase you may well catch.

if you are in a crap mark, with rubbish bait, poor presentation and awful conditions on a good phase chances are you wont catch much.

its not a be all and end all of fishing, just part of the story

Totally agree Adam, I definitly think there is something in the moon phase etc but I think if you rely of this alone you could miss out on some decent fishing.

Cortaz : One thing you have to consider is local knowledge. You regularly outfish anyone who fishes the Cunnigar as you have fished it so many times. You seemed to have had a great weekends fishing when the moon was not at an ideal phase. Would anyone who went to the cunnigar had similar results - I doubt it. Skill and local knowledge will far outweigh a moon phase if you ask me.

#28 Post by **SeanP** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:40 pm

cortaz wrote:
SeanP wrote:Cracking weekend there Eoghan, glad you put the moon phase mularky out the window :lol:
Sean,

hi sean
ever hear of my "cornflake theory"
its based on the princable that a "nod is the same as a wink to a blind horse"

Sorry Art you've lost me there :? hope i didn't sound like i was having a dig at your theory, no doubt its a factor all right, it's just hard enough getting the weather/tide/time to all fall into place, you certainly have Bigcol converted now as well , gotta check the moonphase first he keeps telling me :roll:
Cheers Sean,

#29 Post by **Pat** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:08 pm

Hi Eoghan,
Just on the crystal minnow you were using, I presume from your photo's that it was the blue joey mackeral? Was it floating or sinking? 110mm or 130mm?

#30 Post by **bigcol** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:48 pm

Great fishing Eoghan.
Being in the right place at the right time with the right bait is the biggest key to success.
As for the moon phase theory,if it all lines up with tide and waether I am convinced that it helps hugly.As said previously you cant rely on it totally or you would only get out a few times a month but no coincidence Sean that the bass came on the feed within a 1/4 hour or so of the time I predicted it would get going.
In saying that I think the tide has a bigger part to play when fishing from the boat as our catches of sea trout as bass are testament to.

Again well done Eoghan.I duff my cap to your watercraft skills.

#31 Post by **Marty Harrison** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:05 am

Adam is right Moon phases have been about forever in fresh and saltwater angling, have a look at any old ABU tight lines catalogue and they used to do a "good days to fish" calender based on it. Many articles have been written about it too over the years by vairous anglers. As several others have said it certainly does seem to throw up the bigger fish and better sessions but only when other conditions and factors are are all lined up nicely too, another weapon in your armoury. One thing you cant detract from Art is that he has confidence in his theorys cause he has worked on them and kept records over a long period of time. I believe if youve got confidence in what you do then you`ll not go far wrong :wink: :wink:

And yes Cunn did fish alright over the weekend, I had fish off it ok. Saying that i recon if the moon was better id have caught more or bigger fish. Why did I fish it when there was finally a good surf developing up the road that screamed to be fished? Because I was confident I was gonna catch there for various reasons and I did :D:D

Marty

#32 Post by **Eoghan** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:48 am

bigcol wrote:Great fishing Eoghan.
Being in the right place at the right time with the right bait is the biggest key to success.
As for the moon phase theory,if it all lines up with tide and waether I am convinced that it helps hugly.As said previously you cant rely on it totally or you would only get out a few times a month but no coincidence Sean that the bass came on the feed within a 1/4 hour or so of the time I predicted it would get going.
In saying that I think the tide has a bigger part to play when fishing from the boat as our catches of sea trout as bass are testament to.

Again well done Eoghan.I duff my cap to your watercraft skills.

Cheers mate, we just stick to the same 3 marks usually when down there.
I tihnk sometimes people get caught up running from A-B when in Dingle as there are so many marks to try. We decided to stick to 3 and just learn when and how they fish and it pays off.

Will be down again in Sept, will give you a shout if you are about for a session or two.

#33 Post by **Bass Fisher** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:48 pm

I use "Metcheck" for checking the weather ahead. If you click on the hobbies button, and pick fishing, they do a thing like Tight lines used to. As far as Im concerned, the jurys out as far as moon phases go. Alaister Rawlings, (of Pike fame), was into them big time. For me, its wind direction, temperature, and barometric pressure. Any more, and my brain will explode. :wink:

#34 Post by **Eoghan** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:53 pm

Bass Fisher wrote:I use "Metcheck" for checking the weather ahead. If you click on the hobbies button, and pick fishing, they do a thing like Tight lines used to. As far as Im concerned, the jurys out as far as moon phases go. Alaister Rawlings, (of Pike fame), was into them big time. For me, its wind direction, temperature, and barometric pressure. Any more, and my brain will explode. :wink:

I agree. The conditions on Sundat night were perfect. Warm south westerly blowing, nice swell and a gentle run from left to right with no weed. It had been sunny all day so the sand bars we were fishing over were warm so all in all ideal conditions.

paulocallaghan · #35 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:14 pm

just used metckeck for the weekend its very very useful, brilliant tool for planning sessions

#36 Post by **petekd** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:24 pm

What do they base their predictions on as a matter of interest when it comes to quantifying how successful your chances might be?

#37 Post by **Bass Fisher** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:47 pm

I think it might be barometric pressure, + cloud cover+temperature etc.

#38 Post by **WaveChopper** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:08 am

Well done mate, hope all those bass will be heading Dublin way soon :lol: :lol: :lol:

#39 Post by **Eoghan** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:30 am

WaveChopper wrote:Well done mate, hope all those bass will be heading Dublin way soon :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dublin gets its fair share of bass but you really need to head south to get good qty of them. I love Kerry. Cant wait to get down again and to be honest we're thinking of another trip between now and September. Well worth it

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Heaven or Kerry as it is sometimes called