Names for "wrasse" in your area
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Names for "wrasse" in your area
ive heard of Balla in mayo
gunner in conamara
and rockfish
what are they called round your way?
gunner in conamara
and rockfish
what are they called round your way?
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Wrasse 
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
in ballycotton the fishermen call them 'block' and i even use the name at times & people dont have a clue what im talking about,must ask one of the older fishermen sum day & see where the name came from
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
wrasse down my way too 
haven heard any slang for them as of yet, it'll probably reach its way over from the west soon enough
haven heard any slang for them as of yet, it'll probably reach its way over from the west soon enough
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Rock Mourin or just Mourin in the middle glens of Antrim and south of Garron point people seem to prefer the name Bavan. Not sure if Bavan originates in Ireland or Scotland but Mourin is Irish because it was originally Moirin.
Whats the current Irish for wrasse??????
Edit- my spelling of that is probably misleading and dodgy, Moaran or Moran is probably more reliable. Closer,- I'd love to know of it being used for wrasse somewhere other than here. Did see the name written as Moirin in a very old book once which I havent been able to trace but am trying to.
Whats the current Irish for wrasse??????
Edit- my spelling of that is probably misleading and dodgy, Moaran or Moran is probably more reliable. Closer,- I'd love to know of it being used for wrasse somewhere other than here. Did see the name written as Moirin in a very old book once which I havent been able to trace but am trying to.
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2012 Sea species:- Pollack, Coley, Mackerel, Cod, Bass, Sea Trout, Haddock, Plaice, Dab, Flounder, Red Gurnard, Grey Gurnard, Pouting, Whiting, Corkwing Wrasse, Ballan Wrasse, Lesser Spotted Dogfish, Brown Trout caught on beach.
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2012 Sea species:- Pollack, Coley, Mackerel, Cod, Bass, Sea Trout, Haddock, Plaice, Dab, Flounder, Red Gurnard, Grey Gurnard, Pouting, Whiting, Corkwing Wrasse, Ballan Wrasse, Lesser Spotted Dogfish, Brown Trout caught on beach.
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Interesting Rooster, some people around here call coalfish 'blockan'. Though Glashin is much more widely used. Had to laugh when I heard a man describe large shoal coley as 'gaylords'. Then I looked up regional names for coley online and found the name 'Greylaird' in a list of something like 30 names for them.roooster wrote:in ballycotton the fishermen call them 'block' and i even use the name at times & people dont have a clue what im talking about,must ask one of the older fishermen sum day & see where the name came from
2013 Sea Species:- Bass, Flounder, 5 Beard Rockling, Shore Rockling, Whiting, red gurnard, grey gurnard, Pollack, coley, mackerel, sea trout, cant remember cos I didn't update at the time.....
2012 Sea species:- Pollack, Coley, Mackerel, Cod, Bass, Sea Trout, Haddock, Plaice, Dab, Flounder, Red Gurnard, Grey Gurnard, Pouting, Whiting, Corkwing Wrasse, Ballan Wrasse, Lesser Spotted Dogfish, Brown Trout caught on beach.
2011 Sea species:- codling, L.S. dogfish, coley, whiting, pollack(4lb 3oz), sea trout, shore conger eel (15lb), ballan wrasse, grey gurnard, plaice, dab (and lobster).
2012 Sea species:- Pollack, Coley, Mackerel, Cod, Bass, Sea Trout, Haddock, Plaice, Dab, Flounder, Red Gurnard, Grey Gurnard, Pouting, Whiting, Corkwing Wrasse, Ballan Wrasse, Lesser Spotted Dogfish, Brown Trout caught on beach.
2011 Sea species:- codling, L.S. dogfish, coley, whiting, pollack(4lb 3oz), sea trout, shore conger eel (15lb), ballan wrasse, grey gurnard, plaice, dab (and lobster).
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
The spelling of the word is Ballach, taken from the Irish pronunciation.roooster wrote:in ballycotton the fishermen call them 'block' and i even use the name at times & people dont have a clue what im talking about,must ask one of the older fishermen sum day & see where the name came from
I've herd then been call Connors or Stont Connors
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
I've heard some of the old folk call them cudgin up here
coalie are called glashion and pollock are called shelock
coalie are called glashion and pollock are called shelock
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Up here I have heard older one's refer to them as bavan, coalfish are always called blocken
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
An old Dunlaoghaire name for them is Rock Bream 
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Yera that's pure west brit boyJOHN1 wrote:An old Dunlaoghaire name for them is Rock Bream
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Wrasse is all I hear...
But I e heard folk call immature pollock 'glassen', not sure of the spelling!
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But I e heard folk call immature pollock 'glassen', not sure of the spelling!
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
Etihad folk seem to recognise blockan for coleys the whole way from Larne to Portstewart but I honestly didnt hear it until I was about 20. We were told glashin for coley and Lythe for pollack. The names are still more used locally than the english common names, which is great. Wrasse were rock mourins or mourans. Pronunciations varied a bit because it wasnt a written word and my spelling is only an attempt at the sound.I like the name Bavan also. Didnt hear that til I was in my 30s and it was Carnlough and Glenarm people using it.Etihad wrote:Up here I have heard older one's refer to them as bavan, coalfish are always called blocken
Also chatted to a Co Down man from near Ardglass who used blockan for coley.
2013 Sea Species:- Bass, Flounder, 5 Beard Rockling, Shore Rockling, Whiting, red gurnard, grey gurnard, Pollack, coley, mackerel, sea trout, cant remember cos I didn't update at the time.....
2012 Sea species:- Pollack, Coley, Mackerel, Cod, Bass, Sea Trout, Haddock, Plaice, Dab, Flounder, Red Gurnard, Grey Gurnard, Pouting, Whiting, Corkwing Wrasse, Ballan Wrasse, Lesser Spotted Dogfish, Brown Trout caught on beach.
2011 Sea species:- codling, L.S. dogfish, coley, whiting, pollack(4lb 3oz), sea trout, shore conger eel (15lb), ballan wrasse, grey gurnard, plaice, dab (and lobster).
2012 Sea species:- Pollack, Coley, Mackerel, Cod, Bass, Sea Trout, Haddock, Plaice, Dab, Flounder, Red Gurnard, Grey Gurnard, Pouting, Whiting, Corkwing Wrasse, Ballan Wrasse, Lesser Spotted Dogfish, Brown Trout caught on beach.
2011 Sea species:- codling, L.S. dogfish, coley, whiting, pollack(4lb 3oz), sea trout, shore conger eel (15lb), ballan wrasse, grey gurnard, plaice, dab (and lobster).
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
In the coastal areas between Dungarven and Galway including my own area near Kinsale they are called Ballach by thre older people, Conor in some areas as well. Small W.Pollock were/are called Biardán and small Black Pollock called Crothóg, this name is very common in minor coastal placenames. Bull Huss are known to the older generation as Cailleach Breach meaning 'speckled hag'.
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to go with the wrasse(block),they call a coalfish here a 'black nag',a small cod gets the name 'tamling' & dogfish is know as a 'shameie sheen'......
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
The colloquial name for wrasse in Dun Laoghaire in the early 1960's was as John1 said Rock Bream.
I never heard or saw the word wrasse used until I acquired a copy of the Observer's Book of Sea Fishes in about 1966.
Is it possible that they were called Rock Bream to differentiate them from the other sea bream species which are of a similar shape and which were caught in the area for a few years post 1945? - ( until they were fished out after making a comeback during the war).
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I never heard or saw the word wrasse used until I acquired a copy of the Observer's Book of Sea Fishes in about 1966.
Is it possible that they were called Rock Bream to differentiate them from the other sea bream species which are of a similar shape and which were caught in the area for a few years post 1945? - ( until they were fished out after making a comeback during the war).
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Re: Names for "wrasse" in your area
aye we do!rushnaldo wrote:Known as buyins as if the l's were silent in Donegal