Hi Cathal, yeah I did try that but wasnt sure how much force I could use. They werent coming off too easy. I was more concerned with getting the fish back into the water. I didnt even weigh it. It was caught at the mouth of an estuary.cathalger wrote:Just noticed the plaster of sea lice on its gill plate Eoghan, it'll shed them when it does hit the river but its not a bad idea to take as many of the lice as possible of a sea trout that is being returned to the sea, it just does the fish a bit of a favour to take its parasites off it.
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I'd guesstimate it at around 2 1/2 - 3 lbs (unless you have very delicate ladylike hands......) 

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Ha ha
, thats what I figured it was myself to be honest.

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Yeah I suppose the priority when returning one is to do it quickly with as little fuss as possible but it does no harm at all to allow it to revive for a minute in the water in the landing net or just cradled in your hand- if it doesnt shoot off immediately and a few lice can be scraped off then with your finger nails. Theyre easy removed if slid onto a fin and then slid off the fin. The colouration and the lice tell that its a true sea trout and not a slob trout. Sea trout spotting densities are very variable, some have fewer spots than your average salmon, only an odd spec while others have no more room for spots, this one is a well spotted one, cracker.Eoghan wrote:Hi Cathal, yeah I did try that but wasnt sure how much force I could use. They werent coming off too easy. I was more concerned with getting the fish back into the water. I didnt even weigh it. It was caught at the mouth of an estuary.cathalger wrote:Just noticed the plaster of sea lice on its gill plate Eoghan, it'll shed them when it does hit the river but its not a bad idea to take as many of the lice as possible of a sea trout that is being returned to the sea, it just does the fish a bit of a favour to take its parasites off it.
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Thats good to know Cathal, will do in future. We encounter a few over a season and most are always covered in them.
We are just so conscious that they are protected, and always seem fragile, that we try to get em back asap.
I was delighted to see the colour of the fish, and it fought like a bass. Didnt jump at all. So when it came out of the water I was like "Eh.....what...."
But since I have read up on them and done a bit of research based on links provided by people on the forum.
I can see why some people become fixated on them. Bit like me with bass really.
We are just so conscious that they are protected, and always seem fragile, that we try to get em back asap.
I was delighted to see the colour of the fish, and it fought like a bass. Didnt jump at all. So when it came out of the water I was like "Eh.....what...."
But since I have read up on them and done a bit of research based on links provided by people on the forum.
I can see why some people become fixated on them. Bit like me with bass really.
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Yip Tanglerat, sea trout and salmon entering freshwater already colouring, sometimes very coloured salmon, pure red. The colour of the fish is an awful lot more to do with the fishes physiology more than the type of water it is in, sea trout and salmon kelts and their smolts are bars of silver leaving the blackest peat water to go to sea, zero to do with the type of water in that case. I got 2 salmon kelts in Glen Lough in March 99 both bars of silver and the scales dripping off them. Hadnt seen the sea in anything up to 8 months. Regularly catch smolts in the spring in black floods and theyre as silver as it is possible to be, Im sure you see that too up your way. You know the crack.Tanglerat wrote:Yeah, they'll start to come in coloured up now. Mind you, it could also be a slob trout I suppose, one of those weird ones, a brown trout that doesn't complete the transition to a true sea trout. They'll be running back upriver now as well.
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Have to say I have loved learning about trout since I posted this. Very interesting stuff. I'm going to do a lot more reading up on it. Any good sites or books on sea trout?
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Eoghan I could certainly recommend sea trout angling books, natural history books would be thinner on the ground. No where near as studied as salmon but Im sure there are lots of papers online. There is one huge volume which I havent got round to buying yet -its atleast £50 the last time I looked at it, I'd need to check the name again but I feared it might be a bit too scientific and brutally boring without any colourful pics of big fat fish and rods beside them. Might have to order it into a library to see if its a good buy.
THE sEA tROUT AND THE FLY(James Waltham) Chapter if not 2 on saltwater, nice book
Sea Trout Flies - by the same author- a fly manual with incredibly skilled writing of fishing accounts, deadly stories.(freshwater)
Sea Trout Fishing- Hugh Falkus Very practicle book from the 60's but very little on salt water
Malcolm Greenhalgh may well be worth researching, Moc Morgan, Arthur Oglesby, just cant think of any other specific sea trout books I have here but any I do have are mainly angling books and mostly freshwater at that.
THE sEA tROUT AND THE FLY(James Waltham) Chapter if not 2 on saltwater, nice book
Sea Trout Flies - by the same author- a fly manual with incredibly skilled writing of fishing accounts, deadly stories.(freshwater)
Sea Trout Fishing- Hugh Falkus Very practicle book from the 60's but very little on salt water
Malcolm Greenhalgh may well be worth researching, Moc Morgan, Arthur Oglesby, just cant think of any other specific sea trout books I have here but any I do have are mainly angling books and mostly freshwater at that.
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Tnks guys, I just ordered a few from Amazon for starters. Read a bit more online since. I can see why people get obsessed. 

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-May-Fish-T- ... 3RJVSYRZFPEoghan wrote:Tnks guys, I just ordered a few from Amazon for starters. Read a bit more online since. I can see why people get obsessed.
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roryodonnell wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-May-Fish-T- ... 3RJVSYRZFPEoghan wrote:Tnks guys, I just ordered a few from Amazon for starters. Read a bit more online since. I can see why people get obsessed.
I forgot about that one, its a classic, was kinda thinking of more contemporary stuff but thats a good read. Its mainly focused on lake fishing with wetfly from a boat, traditional lough style white trout fishing, Donegal and Connemara. You wont regret getting it.
There is maybe a wee bit more salt water advice in Falkus than I mentioned above and he has a 'secret ' Irish cottage and sea fishing venues in Ireland, Tanglerat might have an idea where his secret spot is cos I think its way up in Donegal somewhere- good stories about old local people thinking he was a nut job for clearing away seaweed to allow him to fish.
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There is also some good stuff on youtube. Looking forward to reading the books. Again, tnks for all the links and info gents.
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cathalger wrote:There is maybe a wee bit more salt water advice in Falkus than I mentioned above and he has a 'secret ' Irish cottage and sea fishing venues in Ireland, Tanglerat might have an idea where his secret spot is cos I think its way up in Donegal somewhere.
Hush now - it wouldn't be a secret if everyone knew about it. (But I bet you've fished it yourself without realising!)

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Strange, I'd forgotten about this that's coming out, and I was really looking forward to it. Now I am all over again.
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Will this be out in time for Santa Tanglerat?????Tanglerat wrote:Strange, I'd forgotten about this that's coming out, and I was really looking forward to it. Now I am all over again.![]()
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