If artic charr feeding patterns are influenced by the moon then what about other species? Aside from the obvious influence on tide might the moon have other effects on fish appetites?
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Moon Phases
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Moon Phases
Here is a quote from Artic Charr Biology by Gavin Johnston - "artic charr show definite short term growth cycles that correspond to moon phases. Growth rates wax and wane over a 2 week period, with maximum growth and food consumption occurring midway between the new and full moons, and low growth and food consumption occurring around the new and full moons."
If artic charr feeding patterns are influenced by the moon then what about other species? Aside from the obvious influence on tide might the moon have other effects on fish appetites?
Pete
If artic charr feeding patterns are influenced by the moon then what about other species? Aside from the obvious influence on tide might the moon have other effects on fish appetites?
Pete
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Rockhopper
Sure it does. Not only fish but mammals that feed at night, like Wolves etc. When you look at the guys who hunt Alligators at night with a lamp, the animal thinks its the moon shining on the water.
I don't think enough attention is paid to the moon phases by anglers (including myself) because you must take other things into account, like for instance if its cloudy and the moon is hidden, the tide pull is still there but no moon to see.
This may sound stupid...but I have had to use measurements all my working life, but still not found any use for algebra, why cant schools teach kids a bit more about the effects of the planets on our earth. I don't mean how far Pluto is away, but the effects it or other planets may (if any) have on the life on earth.
Monday rant over
Tom.
I don't think enough attention is paid to the moon phases by anglers (including myself) because you must take other things into account, like for instance if its cloudy and the moon is hidden, the tide pull is still there but no moon to see.
This may sound stupid...but I have had to use measurements all my working life, but still not found any use for algebra, why cant schools teach kids a bit more about the effects of the planets on our earth. I don't mean how far Pluto is away, but the effects it or other planets may (if any) have on the life on earth.
Monday rant over
Tom.
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I used to be a bit sceptical about the moon business, there was article running in the Irish Anglers Digest some time ago about an angler using the moon phases as a guide to predicting pike feeding times. Check this website site out too http://www.moonstrike.co.uk.
I'm definetly going to make a point of recording moon information in the diary to see if any patterns emerge. Even if they don't it will be fun trying
I'm definetly going to make a point of recording moon information in the diary to see if any patterns emerge. Even if they don't it will be fun trying
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Moon Phases for web sites
This module is pretty neat and can be added to any website (perhaps Kieran can consider )
http://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phase ... ases.phtml
)http://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phase ... ases.phtml
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I've been keeping note of the moon rise and set times to see if I can spot any pattern. So far, it appears that if the moon exists, my catch rate is negligible. Pretty stong correlation there, I think.
A lot of people I've talked to swear by moonrise after dark as one of the best times to fish. Yet to see it myself....
Pretty stong correlation there, I think.A lot of people I've talked to swear by moonrise after dark as one of the best times to fish. Yet to see it myself....
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What do you mean? What effects do you think schools could teach about? I don't think it would be a good idea to gewt rid of algebra-even if you don't get into Science, Engineering, Commerce etc?Rockhopper wrote:This may sound stupid...but I have had to use measurements all my working life, but still not found any use for algebra, why cant schools teach kids a bit more about the effects of the planets on our earth. I don't mean how far Pluto is away, but the effects it or other planets may (if any) have on the life on earth.
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ahhh! They use Algebra for forecasting the weather, that's how they never get it quite right, thanks, that one problem I've always wondered about solved
Hey jd, I'm not looking to get into an argument about the statement I made to stress a point. Let me tell you though, I have never found a use for it in my working life and I have done alright in business, neither of my kids found a use for it and they are both successful. Perhaps it helped the Pharaohs get the pyramids built but Algebra has never helped most of the people I talk to (should the question ever arise)
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Hey jd, I'm not looking to get into an argument about the statement I made to stress a point. Let me tell you though, I have never found a use for it in my working life and I have done alright in business, neither of my kids found a use for it and they are both successful. Perhaps it helped the Pharaohs get the pyramids built but Algebra has never helped most of the people I talk to (should the question ever arise)
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I'm not going to say everybody will find a use for it (directly) in their working life-quite a few people do, though. There are arguments that the current Leaving Cert Syllabus is too theoretical for most people, and tthat a more practical course should be introduced..
I do know that some colleges are finding poor maths standards a problem esp in some Tech Courses..
anyway-back to moon phases..
I do know that some colleges are finding poor maths standards a problem esp in some Tech Courses..
anyway-back to moon phases..
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jd,
That could be the fault of the teaching profession, it seems the kids are always to blame for bad results, never the teachers.
I use my own (and friends from my school days) experiences with maths teachers, it was always my worst subject, why because the way maths was taught was boring. After leaving school (like many others) I used the maths I needed and never had a problem.
I don't think I am being unfair to teachers, they seem to be better now than when I was at school, but most tend to give up on the kids who are needy and hard work and concentrate on the ones who make them (teachers) look good.
Perhaps smaller classes make it easier now a days for the teachers,but if that is the case, then they are the only part of a system that pays more fore working with less, if you see what I mean by that.
Just my opinion and if you are a teacher I am talking generally here, not aiming this at you personally
Tom.
That could be the fault of the teaching profession, it seems the kids are always to blame for bad results, never the teachers.
I use my own (and friends from my school days) experiences with maths teachers, it was always my worst subject, why because the way maths was taught was boring. After leaving school (like many others) I used the maths I needed and never had a problem.
I don't think I am being unfair to teachers, they seem to be better now than when I was at school, but most tend to give up on the kids who are needy and hard work and concentrate on the ones who make them (teachers) look good.
Perhaps smaller classes make it easier now a days for the teachers,but if that is the case, then they are the only part of a system that pays more fore working with less, if you see what I mean by that.
Just my opinion and if you are a teacher I am talking generally here, not aiming this at you personally
Tom.
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Re: Moon Phases
Pete-If you are interested in Char, you may be interested in a group a friend of mine is involved in..pete wrote:Here is a quote from Artic Charr Biology by Gavin Johnston - "artic charr show definite short term growth cycles that correspond to moon phases.
Pete
http://www.charr.org/
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Lads,
Just to get back on-topic cause it is a good 'un. Here's another link:
http://www.solunar.com/
There's lots of this stuff out here on the web. From the reading I've done the actual moon rise and set times each day (there's a moon rise and set time just like a sunrise and sunset apparently!) are supposed to be trigger times for fish to feed.
You can download a table for 2006 that gives the sun rise, moon rise, sun set and moon set times for each day. Trying to tie it all in with a fishing trip and tides is a bit difficult though!
Liam
Just to get back on-topic cause it is a good 'un. Here's another link:
http://www.solunar.com/
There's lots of this stuff out here on the web. From the reading I've done the actual moon rise and set times each day (there's a moon rise and set time just like a sunrise and sunset apparently!) are supposed to be trigger times for fish to feed.
You can download a table for 2006 that gives the sun rise, moon rise, sun set and moon set times for each day. Trying to tie it all in with a fishing trip and tides is a bit difficult though!
Liam