Flat fish identity?

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#21 Post by **JOHN1** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:05 pm

Pat wrote:Now to throw the cat amongst the pigeons ...how do you tell a flounder and plaice apart?

a flounder has rough thorns at the top of lateral line just where it connects to its head a plaice is smooth to the touch

#22 Post by **rustyhookthomas** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:02 am

deffo a flounder. erics description is spot on.a dab is a dab is a dab!
flounders vary hugely in colour but not in shape, belly colour or the nodules that run right the way down the fins plus the extended tail lenght!

#23 Post by **Caz-Galway** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:10 am

Lads

ID ing a flat (Dab, Plaice, Flounder) is easy. Rub your hand from tail to head of the flat in question.

If its rough all over its a dab.

If its rough only on the lateral line its a flounder.

If its completly smooth and has knobly bits on its head its a plaice.

This is actually how fish scientists decide if they are not 100% sure of the ID.

You don't even need your eyes open for this ID method.

Caz

#24 Post by **Pat** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:34 pm

Well what, where you run your finger up the lateral line and its smooth until the lateral line curves and then its rough with knobbly bits?

#25 Post by **samo** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:52 pm

I was fishing down in courttown myself on saturday morning and had a flounder exactly the same.

#26 Post by **boycie89** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:06 pm

eyesreilly wrote:I would say flounder as i cant see the pronounced curve in the lateral line as in pic of dab below.

thats because its right where the flash of your camera is !! defo flounder, cant believe people think its a dab

#27 Post by **eyesreilly** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:35 pm

bonycie89 wrote:
eyesreilly wrote:I would say flounder as i cant see the pronounced curve in the lateral line as in pic of dab below.

thats because its right where the flash of your camera is !! defo flounder, cant believe people think its a dab

Hi boycie,,,,read what i wrote again,,the photo is of a dab,,,i'm pointing out the difference

cant see lateral curve,,,,,,as in pic of dab below

#28 Post by **boycie89** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:00 pm

i know that ! thats why i said the reason you cant cee the pronounced curve is beacause its hidden by the flash of the camera on the dab !! it is there !

#29 Post by **WrasseBasher** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:19 pm

JUST TO MIX IT UP SOME MORE ITS A PLAICE WITHOUT SPOTS

FLOUNDER.......!!!

#30 Post by jd » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:22 pm

I can see why they don't give species points in most Shore Opens!!

#31 Post by **WrasseBasher** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:24 pm

IF THERES SPECIES POINTS GOING IT COULD BE A BASS

#32 Post by **Caz-Galway** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:57 pm

HI Pat,

The nobbley bits on a plaices head are smooth and beyond the lateral line. The rough area up the back of a flounder are on the lateral line and are rough even sharp.

Caz

#33 Post by **JOHN1** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:51 pm

i suppose its not as bad as thinking a flounder was a TURBOT

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

#34 Post by **corbyeire** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:02 pm

uvox wrote:Btw - Plaice also have a more diamond shape than the other two.

disagree - my first question is always how diamond is the shape - more diamond more flounder in my book

not happy with shape then its feel up the little bugger

#35 Post by **eyesreilly** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:08 pm

boycie89 wrote:i know that ! thats why i said the reason you cant cee the pronounced curve is beacause its hidden by the flash of the camera on the dab !! it is there !

But i can see the curve in the pic of the Dab

,,,its the original pic i cant see the curve in

,,,,,think we're getting crossed lines

#36 Post by **dbrock** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:13 pm

jd wrote:I can see why they don't give species points in most Shore Opens!!

can we know please vote on these again pls pls pls
any way its a flounders but if we were going for species points it would be a dab or plaice depending on what he doesnt have

species points are s@@t

#37 Post by **eyesreilly** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:18 pm

JOHN1 wrote:i suppose its not as bad as thinking a flounder was a TURBOT

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

You wouldnt be referring to me John,,,would you?? i was given bad advice on the night:oops:

,,,anyways that was about 500 posts ago in my early days

#38 Post by **JOHN1** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:05 pm

eyesreilly wrote:
JOHN1 wrote:i suppose its not as bad as thinking a flounder was a TURBOT

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
You wouldnt be referring to me John,,,would you?? i was given bad advice on the night:oops: ,,,anyways that was about 500 posts ago in my early days

you have come a long way dave

btw are you still taking any bad advice

for a second i taught you were going to say 500 flounders ago

#39 Post by **WrasseBasher** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:44 pm

FLOUNDER - SMOUNDER
BET NO ONES CAUGHT A RED FLOUNDER

#40 Post by **dan** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:45 pm

i think its a dab. was it smooth both ways or rough when you rub your hand up the body (towards the head)

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