certs for scales

[MAC]

€50 quid and registered post of a scales both ways.... It would be closer to €80 or €100 by the time your finished.. It will end up costing more than an NCT for a guy to put you scales on a tripod and test it with 4 mass approved weights.... This is a farce!

I don't know if I should be embarrased or annoyed.

[red]

€50 quid and registered post of a scales both ways.... It would be closer to €80 or €100 by the time your finished.. It will end up costing more than an NCT for a guy to put you scales on a tripod and test it with 4 mass approved weights.... This is a farce!

I don't know if I should be embarrased or annoyed.

you only have to pay to send the scales to dublin. the €50 includes the cost of returning the scales to you. But, from the way i read it, if you drop the scales in and collect them again its still €50
it could be cheaper to send them up north

[jd]

It's pretty shortsighted, IMHO. Maybe the Department of Tourism should subsidise the verification of angler's scales!

[dezzer]

Got to be said,what yea are all thinking,What a lod of Bollocks,although a 150%rise its just this country,if you want the cert you will have to pay,dont mind paying something but a rise like this out of the blue,same a levy and household charge,paying to keep others in jobs,we should all stick together and nobody avail of this service,although i do want the cert,edd..............

[JimC]

After some comments on the IFI Facebook page the following was posted by IFI:

It is regrettable that with the economic downturn everyone has to pay for different types of services which, up to recently, may have been provided for free. The Irish Specimen Fish Committee is fortunate that a reputable internationally recognised agency as the National Metrology Laboratory has undertaken to provide this scale certification service for a relatively small fee compared to what might be offered by other companies. The ISFC has negotiated the lowest possible fee for such a service that includes the scales being returned to the angler’s home address by courier service.

http://www.facebook.com/inlandfisheries ... hare_reply

[Tanglerat]

a relatively small fee compared

What planet are they living on?

[JOHN1]

,we should all stick together and nobody avail of this service.

Best idea yet you wont see me paying 50 euro fot it .

[JimC]

There's a few of us down this way using the same type scales (Reuben Heton digital)
I reckon there might be only one cert for them all....and a bit of home calibration testing

[Tanglerat]

€50 vs £25? Any chance of getting your scales certified in Northern Ireland? Do they offer a cross-border service?

NML should be boycotted until they cop themselves on.

If the offices in Northern Ireland can't handle requests from the Republic, any chance of our Northern members lending a hand?

[MAC]

Do they really think were eejits??? Like always, mention angling or boating and you get some ridiculous price attached. I'm sure a private company would be able to do this much cheaper.....why not look to one of the colleges for support like was done with DNA sampling of fish scales.... I'm sure some there could be some arrangement.... Looks like I'll be having my own specimen awards next year Gombeans!

[JimC]

Do they really think were eejits??? Like always, mention angling or boating and you get some ridiculous price attached. I'm sure a private company would be able to do this much cheaper.....why not look to one of the colleges for support like was done with DNA sampling of fish scales.... I'm sure some there could be some arrangement.... Looks like I'll be having my own specimen awards next year Gombeans!

Ah c'mon Kev get off the fence

[MAC]

I wish I could burn the fecking fence down ...... I am truly disgusted on this one Jim... In the middle of the biggest recession they spring this shite.... If anything shows the disconnect between the civil service and it's agencies & the general person, for me it's this.... I don't mind a charge, but surely €10 would cover the 10 minutes work it takes to certify a scales. one euro for one minutes work... That's fabulous money during a recession! especially considering the work

[JimC]

I wish I could burn the fecking fence down ...... I am truly disgusted on this one Jim... In the middle of the biggest recession they spring this shite.... If anything shows the disconnect between the civil service and it's agencies & the general person, for me it's this.... I don't mind a charge, but surely €10 would cover the 10 minutes work it takes to certify a scales. one euro for one minutes work... That's fabulous money during a recession! especially considering the work

I cannot argue.

At one stage, a few years back, I included a piece in Irish Angler on the certification process. It is not a complex process (other than having the standard weights).

[jd]

My reading of it is that NSAI would prefer not to offer this service at all, presumably because they feel it is a distraction from their statutory obligations regarding verification of retail outlet scales, fuel pumps etc etc.

The process for fishing scales should be quite straightforward. Why not entrust the IFI with verification of scales?

[MAC]

Why not indeed John I can't understand why the IFI wouldn't take this on. A few mass approved weights and your away.... It's far from rocket science and I'm guessing maybe 300 scales a year max?? Maybe 500, but even then, it's not that much extra. I wish I had the time to do it myself

[Al and Jordan]

€50 vs £25? Any chance of getting your scales certified in Northern Ireland? Do they offer a cross-border service?

NML should be boycotted until they cop themselves on.

If the offices in Northern Ireland can't handle requests from the Republic, any chance of our Northern members lending a hand?

time for sea angling ireland to come into it's own again
we are back and forward over the border all the time so if anybody wants to get them certified up here i'm more than glad to help out. we'll be spending a weekend in mayo over easter with doggie3131 and we'll have loads of east coast smoothie trips in the summer planned. added to that we are up in north donegal every couple of weeks. so if anyone wants to send me a pm it would be easy enough to arrange for me to get them certified for you. the weights and measure office is'nt far from where we live and if i ring them in the morning they usually get them certified within an hour of dropping them in. all the lads over the border have been kind enough to look after us on all our trips over the years so it would be no problem to finally return the favour
to me, this is what sea angling ireland is all about. anglers helping out fellow anglers

[screeming reels]

Hi
I for one will no longer bother with claiming specimens, its a shame as it was providing a great data base on the state of the fisheries around the irish coast, look at all the new specimen ratifications over the last 5 years.
Has Anyone done any research on what it takes to become licensed to certify fishing scales ? can hardly be rocket science to check scales with datum weights etc??
IF, and its a big IF , everyone including charter skippers boycotted submitting forms, then there just might be a re-think towards this charge.
A damn shame, but, watch this space, licence will be next!!
regards
screeming

[mickeyfish]

Just to ask once you certify your scales is that for just for a year or is it a longer period of time

[JOHN1]

Just to ask once you certify your scales is that for just for a year or is it a longer period of time

only lasts a year mick.

[MAC]

Good to hear people are opting out of the process. It's a real shame, but these guys have to cop on. The potential impact to tourism alone should be worth the IFI or some other state body taking this simple task on.