New Rock Rod

Hi
I am looking to buy a new rod for fishing very rough ground i am using a team daiwa x 130xm and find it a bit on the soft side i also had a kompressor sport same story meta-lite storm and many more i am looking for something seriously stiff .



Any help on this i would be very greatfull.

Penn Surfblaster Ruff Stuff, cracking rod, you'll pull the plug out with this!

if its a pokeir rod you want then try the likes of the conoflex anubis or anubis plus, nemesis plus or premier or some of the older conoflex models
greys nitra or apollo m2
century wr300 or grand prix
zziplex perhaps the f1

yes, Conoflex Anubis-6oz or 7oz or the tournament version- super rods also Zeloso, tournament extreme, scorpion sport, and oblivion.
Zziplex Bullet sport, hyper bullet,and SV version. TZ500, Primo FT,
Dymic HST, LT-14 are among the best ever made.
I dont use,rate or recomend Century rods.
Hopes this helps.

Century :lol: :lol: :lol: Louder Paddy, Louder :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tom.

Hi
Paddy, what you got against Century rods? I have read good reports on them from people on other forums, and especially the TT Sport, although it would not be an out n out poker as this guy is looking for.
Just interested why you don't rate or recommend century rods.
Mo

A saying that i have heard alot over the years,
Oh, they always break there!!!
I smashed a brand new Kompressor Grand Prix, got on to Simon C the owner and well he was as helpful as a blind sniper, big attitude problem, had some words and told him exactly what he could do,,,,
since then not one of there rods have or will pass through my hands again.
Zziplex, Conoflex all the way. Quality rods, and quality service.
What about you Rockhopper,,?

I suppose everyone has their own preferences, as is the case in this thread from the Total Fishing site. Hope it is OK to post this link as i thunk it makes for interesting reading

http://www.total-fishing.com/SeaForum.a ... 03C&Page=2

Anyone else on here got any opinions, experiences of the rods mentioned in the above link?

Paddy,

I come from the NE of England 15 minutes drive from the Century factory, seen more Centry rods than most I would say, ditto on Simons customer service, he upset me once and never again. It makes me laugh when I read on forums about the good after-sales and how nice the person on the phone was, in my book you only get once chance at a first impression.

Seen plenty of his rods break, heard stories that time seemed to be proved true, just how inconsistant the quality is. he did employ the best builder of a rod that I have ever seen, he made a beautiful job, but you cant hide or disguise faults or skimping on fabric no matter how nice the whippings look.

He has made some good rods over the years, but it can be a bit of a lottery on what you get, one minute good next bad, quality is not fluke, it needs to be worked at week in week out, that dont seem to happen with Century rods.

Sure Danny has been doing the business over grass with Century rods, 2 points come up though...1/ Does he use an off the shelf rod...2/ what would Danny do with a Zziplex, Conoflex or Daiwa even.

Tom.

1/ Does he use an off the shelf rod...

This is from the century website forum from Simon himself.

"To be honest as much as a TT-R can be classified as an "off the shelf rod" -Danny's rods are slightly tuned eg for 125 gram event - it's longer - about 15'

Some carbon materials are uniquely specified and repositioned and we reckon this gets a little more out of it but generally - the design principal is the same as the "off the shelf" "

And this from the Century website talking about the TT-R.

We are now getting into the domain where aspects of what makes Danny's TT-R so different from conventional rods and there is not much technical detail that can be described on an open web site


So the Answer is no Danny does not use an off the Shelf rod.


2/ what would Danny do with a Zziplex, Conoflex or Daiwa even.

I believe he would do the same as he does now and put it 10 meters passed every one else.

Scara,

My point about Danny and his rods not being off the shelf are to warn anyone who thinks that because he uses and does what he does then thinks all Century rods are the same...figure it out.

To beleive anything what Century say or claim is a whole different matter, I could not say things here without bringing people into it who may not want to be drawn in, some reading this will know exactly what and who I mean, so on that slant I wont say it on an open site.

If what I said about the quality of Century rods offends you or any Century owner, thats not my fault, what I say is said by many. I've not had a Century rod in my hands for over 16 years, for the same reason as PaddyC and we're not in a small club.

Tom.

i to have had and heard of many century rods breaking , i broke a long eeze sport into 4 peices, and it really hurt me, century said the rod was ok and told me out of good will they would replace it, never again would i buy or use a century rod , i just dont have faith in them even if they offered me 10 more meters to my cast,

I think Danny got hurt across his back from one breaking at the load-up. He had a big wheel right across his back I was told.

I too broke a long-eazy during a cast, the shop replaced it with a Daiwa whisker, this was some 16/18 years ago. Bought my son a then top of the Century range Excaliber for his Christmas present, by the new year all the varnish had come off the butt section like eggshell. Simon told me it must have been my son to blame, you know what kids are like, yeah F you....last Century I ever touched......took my son back to the shop and the owner (who was a friend) was not happy one bit, my son got a Daiwa whisker too.

I have heard many say...that was then, they are different now.....I'm going to spend upwards of £300 to find out they're not.....no way!! like the man said, never again.

Tom.

I totally agree. Rockhopper, as far as im aware dannys rods are by no means off the shelf, one i hear he has is a TT-R-X of which i know nothing about really other than it is custom made for him and i can only presume that all his rods are. Andrew im sure more then anyone on here has smashed his way through a heap of centurys and is testament to their weakness in both quality and construction.
Ive broken a few rods in my time but only one of them was outside the century brand??? The facts speak for them selves!!
I think that if danny didnt use there rods they would would have absoulutly no claim to fame. I think simon should take a leaf out of the real top rod manufacturers book on after sale service in stead of being the smug git he is.
Agreeing with rockhopper (Quote: If what I said about the quality of Century rods offends you or any Century owner, thats not my fault)
there just the facts as i see them from my experiences.

Each to their own lads. I have a Carbon Metal for several years now and wouldn’t swop it. The action is unchanged, and it’s still pretty much pristine, despite the shoddy treatment I give it! I also think that there are a few unfair comments in this thread, as some of you boys have admitted not having your hands on a century for years! In fairness I know you guys know a fair bit about rod building though.

Everyone has a favourite rod, or rod maker. Mine happens to be Daiwa, simply because I mainly surf fish for bass, and don’t believe that their bass rods can be beaten in terms of action, quality or price. However that is a personal opinion, and I know that there are plenty of people out there who would consider other bass rods to be better. Just as I know that several people consider Century rods to be class rods.

It’s funny because I’ve seen so many threads about Zippies on angling forums, where people have absolutely slated them, in particular for being massively overpriced for what they are and do. I’ve also seen several reports on how quickly they lose their action. I suppose the point I’m trying to make it that most brand names will have people who are completely for or against them, and who have had bad experiences with them and will never touch them again – this isn’t just confined to century like.

There is also a snobbery amongst some anglers with regards to Zziplex/Conoflex, some people feel they need to have the most expensive rod on the beach, or to be seen with the best brand name (I’m not referring to anyone that has posted here, so please don’t take offence – I’m genuinely not trying to have a dig at you). I have to admit that I am also something of a snob, but only in the sense that I want the best possible rod for the type of fishing I am using it for. After that I don’t give a toss about brand names (except it has to be DAIWA DAIWA DAIWA!!!!!!!!!) :D :D . Everyone has their favourites and will always talk them up at the expense of others.

Wrice is looking for a rock rod with some grunt. Fishing rock marks normally means using rotten bottoms, or just lobs into kelp within easy casting distance of the shore. Comparisons between this and Danny Moeskops trying to pendulum a lead into space therefore seem a little irrelevant in my book :D ! I can only imagine how many rods he has broken during his tourney career. Of course the rods are going to be subjected to a lot of stress dragging fish out of kelp, so in fairness, the build quality does come into play.

I have enjoyed using my century, and when it knackers itself out eventually, I would consider purchasing another. However I would also look at a Conoflex, and a Zziplex, and a Daiwa to see what suits me most. And if I was looking for a hernia pole :D , I would also look at an RT accelerator because they are far cheaper than the bigger brand names, but have proved to be perfect for rock fishing in many anglers books.

have a look at the ron thompson axcellerator ,anfish anywhere rock rod or the zziplex lt bullet or some of the above mentioned conoflex.all will do the job but it depends how much you want to spend really.

Steve, regardless of manufactures/names/brands i only buy rods that are suitable and capable for the job in hand, and can only base my choice on previous experiences and centurys i just dont have any faith in.
I have used both zziplex,conoflex and daiwa rods over the years and have had minimal problems with them and the ones that did arise i was very pleased with the responses i got back from the manufactures,
big or small they sorted them out at minimal cost me or directed my how to sort them if a minor one,which is alot more that can be said for century and its owner. :roll:
Now saying that there are some century rods i would like to try but if i dont have faith in them i cant get maximum use out of them subsequently i just dont use them if i cant be 100% confident with them.
As for rods loseing there action, i can only speak for myself but the constant punishment i give my rods it is inevitable and ive yet to come across a rod that dosent after a 5-6 years+ of constant use.
With regards to prices most top quality rods are all in the same price bracket from what i see, you get what you pay for just like anything else. :wink: