best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:08 pm

Ok, question is wots the best surf beach reel line for fairly clean beaches for a multiplier. I have been using stren saltwater formula in 14lb lately and before that suffix trititanium in 15lb. Have also used stren original and extra strength 14lb and also tecklon gold and tecklon supernatural in higher breaking strain although diameter was much same. The stren and suffix i was gettin in bulk spools. Was thinkin of tryin stren stamina 15lb (bulk spool €9). Wots yer preference and why?


sk

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:13 pm

line: tritainum 15lb

reason: its the best. smooth, not too thick, great knot strenth.

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:28 pm

I use stren extra strength in 20lb mainly cause I find it's a good balance between lowish diameter for the breaking strain and fairly smooth plus I don't use a leader and tie most rigs out of the main line

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:31 pm

Do you get meany crak offs by usin the 20lb line straight through? :shock:

Also, do ya think it is restrictin yer distance? :?

sk

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:13 am

I did get a few crack offs when I started trying the feeder rig or if I'm fishing 2big hook baits, generally I uuse just one good size bait. Also don't like using more than a 3oz lead.

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:15 am

fishing without a leader, thats pretty dangerous mate. leader knots aren't that difficult to get the hang of.

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:31 am

I like to fish semi rough ground so if I snag it's easier to set up again. Also just habit and I never really got into the whole leader/rig building thing. Distance wise I always try to fish close in anyways although I know sometimes it could be the difference to get further out. Tonite I could have done with an extra 30 yards, the first table of wave seemed at least 30yards. Currently thinking of toning down the whole set up for clean beach fishing to maybe 14lb line with just a 1oz lead.

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:58 am

The problem as I see it is that for bass you generally want surf and a 1oz to a 3oz is just too light a lot of time if there is a good surf. I know you like to target bass and this is why i mention it. Maybe on those calmer nights this is ok or if you are spinnin a bait along the bottom in a place like the sandhill at the cunnigar but otherwise I would suggest a shockleader and a 1 hook rig (flapper, clipped, pulley, runnin ledger, wotever) and a 4 to 6oz weight. Up to you if you want to use a gripper. I regularly use a 5oz bomb for example. Now I aint suggestin I know it all or to do it my way. I am just suggesting somethin for you to try. It doesnt take long to join some shockleader. You can use shockleader for the main rig body and yer 20lb for the snood. I use 15lb fluorocarbon for most of my snoods.

sk

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:12 am

what breaking strain leader should used on a clean beach, and how long should the leader be. Looks like I just kidnapped your thread, u can have it back in a minute :D

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:05 pm

ultima f1, best line ive ever used

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:16 pm

agree with eric, bought a bulk spool a while back and havnt looked back since..

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:34 pm

seanie35 wrote:what breaking strain leader should used on a clean beach, and how long should the leader be. Looks like I just kidnapped your thread, u can have it back in a minute :D



SO far as i know its 10lb for every oz of lead so for a 5oz lead you wd use 50lb shockleader. I use stren but there are various brands available. Obviously you can still use 50lb with a 3oz weight anyway. I use 50lb as standard. I think the length varies as rod lengths vary. You need to have at least 3 to 4 turns on the reel when you are casting. SO you will have a few turns on the reel and leader up through the rod rings and a few feet maybe outside the tip ring. ONe of the match anglers will surely be able to give you specifics.

You need to learn a knot for attaching the leader to the mainline. I'm sure someone on the site will have a link for this. You can go down to 15lb mainline on a clean beach if you are using an appropriate leader. I attach a link to the leader which I leave on it and then this connects to the swivel at the top of the trace/rig. So you will end up buying a rig wallet and having a few pre made rigs in it, along with some links. You will also need to take your spool of leader with you in case you break off. Happens me occassionally when there is a lot of weed about.

All in all its not so bad once you get used to it and it is definitely safer.

sk

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:41 pm

eric wrote:ultima f1, best line ive ever used


Eric,

surprises me but i aint doubtin you. Its just I got a lot of sample stuff of that brand some years back at the Dublin show (along with lots of other punters) and it didnt go well at all. Havent used the f1 stuff so willing to give it a try.

sk

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:42 pm

Have to say ultima f1 aswell never had any problems with it. Used to use the suffix tritanium but haven't looked back since I got myself the f1 stuff on ebay....

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:05 pm

the only prop i have with the f1 is the price, at around 18 squid in the shops for a spool it aint the cheapest available,

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:10 am

ok shoreking off to baumanns with me on Monday, cheers

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:51 am

got a spool of 15lbs red ice around a month ago and find it to have great knot strength have no problems with it yet and have a lot fewer crack offs .
on spinning rod i have some form of stern fluorocarbon got state side excellent used it for everything bass pike salmon

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:29 am

Hi SK,
after many trials with lines,im using the f1 15lb test very nice feel to it and when used with a tapered leader it does help on the weed front not jamming in the tip ring.The black colour gives me greater confidence when day fishing.
However one of the nicest lines i've used on the multiplier is the daiwa yellow tournament,around a long time but so eay to lay and see the slackliners when night fishing.Toomuch choice but for what its worth i won't use coloured line in bright conditions,only nightfishing and thats where f1 comes in great strengh and it won't spook fish,however it will be hard to spot slackline bites in the dark
Tight lines

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:59 pm

Ok,

its now down to the ultima f1 and or the stren stamina or stren blood red (if I want visibility). Has anyone tried the stren stamina or blood red in 15lbs????

sk

Re: best surf reel mono for clean beaches

Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:33 pm

15lb daiwa tournament , for clean ground fishing ,great line lay,casting and knot strength and its the nuts for night time fishing ,when i"m out most..