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on the topic of rare species has anybody had any success with catching gilthead bream. there was meant to have been a number of them caught in my area last year. not sure how to specifically target them. has anybody succeeded with them. any adivice on tactics, bait, time etc. any would be mucjh appreciated.

hi lumpy
have a look in my personsl gallery got about 50 bream last summer all on lugs
also got 1 G.G. mullet 1.5lb
also hooked 2 large( havent a clue they were fish)but they werent irish
both snaped line
i think some of the bass icought were also tourists
cortazzzzz

where bouts id ya catch thye bream and wat time of the year wuz it?????????

hi lumpy
have a look in my personsl gallery got about 50 bream last summer all on lugs
also got 1 G.G. mullet 1.5lb
also hooked 2 large( havent a clue they were fish)but they werent irish
both snaped line
i think some of the bass icought were also tourists
cortazzzzz

Cortaz in a previous thread you attacked me for having the view that comorants had more right to the fish than we had.

Apologies ...joining this thread a bit late ...my internets been down

The way I see it is ... the Comorants and any other Marine wildlife, fish to survive ....we on the other hand fish for sport/ pleasure.

They have the right to the fish ..not us

Just my point of view


Andy

does that mean your giveing up fishing?
leave more fish in the c for cormorants
why dont we all give it up theyed have plenty to eat then

by the looks of your photo , you take more fish than any comorant :roll:



The title of this thread is RARE SPECIES
going by your pictures , they'll be getting rarer and rarer






Disgusted

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Been sitting here wondering what reply to leave after seeing that photo myself b0ogaloo. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Disgusted

on the same day i released 6 other bream and about 40 bass
released 400 odd bass last year /35 odd bream out of 50
its the same fish in both photos
everyone in the house eats fish theres 5/6 of us somethimes we eat pollock or macks sometimes bass or bream.
i put a lot of time/efford into my fishing and dont see any thing wrong with takeing home any less than i am going to eat.
in irish angler few guys catch 5 boxes of mixed fish1/4 ton and keep it all
if every angler releast the same ratio as me theyed b a lot more fish in the sea
be disgusted all u want boobloo
i am proud of my catches and my release ratio.
u want me to come home fishless everytime?
cortazzzzz

Cortaz,
Dont think he was having a go at you, just that its mad for anyone from outside your area to see the catch rate you have!! Personally I cant ever imagine catching more than one bass a day up here unless the godds are shining on me!! So to hear and see of a few Giltheads being caught is just brilliant suff!! I understand the giltheads are a bit of a regular thing down there in summer and Im sure your taking no more than you have to (badly hooked or the odd eating size 1 ) and I know youve released a lot more than youve kept, its just piccies like that make it look bad. Dont mean any offence and fair play for posting the photos for us all to see!

on the same day i released 6 other bream and about 40 bass
released 400 odd bass last year /35 odd bream out of 50
its the same fish in both photos
everyone in the house eats fish theres 5/6 of us somethimes we eat pollock or macks sometimes bass or bream.
i put a lot of time/efford into my fishing and dont see any thing wrong with takeing home any less than i am going to eat.
in irish angler few guys catch 5 boxes of mixed fish1/4 ton and keep it all
if every angler releast the same ratio as me theyed b a lot more fish in the sea
be disgusted all u want boobloo
i am proud of my catches and my release ratio.
u want me to come home fishless everytime?
cortazzzzz

Cortaz , I could sit here and argue with you all day, but it would be waste of my time.

Your proud of your catch and release rate ,,,Im happy for you

Seaniebo... yes I was having a go at him, big enough and ugly enough to admit it .

Stand by what I said ...Disgusted

Andy

I'm with Andy on this one, I think that photo is disgusting too.

Some of the smaller fish in the photo makes me ask the question...what is it you return...

That photo may have been acceptable 10 or 15 years ago, but not today, with stocks being as bad and as low as they are.

Tom.

I am certainly no stranger to taking fish home for the pan but posting pictures such as this on a public forum is certainly not in keeping with the current climate of declining fish stocks and conservation minded anglers.

We have had, over last summer, to wade through umpteen posts from yourself about fantastic catches, fair play until you then decide to bring ratios to play when justifying the amount of fish you keep. Ratios are neither here nor there, whilst you may be a superb fisherman (im hesitating to use the word Angler), a fish is a fish, not a fraction. If I catch 5 fish and keep one, how does that make me less conservation minded than the guy beside me who catches a 100 and keeps 10?

We have had to listen to a lot from you about how YOU could tackle a lot of the problems that are prevalent in relation to poaching etc around your part of the country......taking amounts of fish like that at a sitting are every bit as bad, look a little closer to home Cortaz formerly known as Poacher???!!!

One last thing, this site is for Anglers, people who enjoy their sport, not for fishermen...

I thought you had gone away................

I wouldnt mind guessing some of those you are so proud to show off are ever so slightly undersize.
Numpties like you are so living in the dark ages, I suggest you wake up, then try and grow up.
You might call yourself an angler but I'd call you an idiot.

Could I also suggest that the moderator removes that picture from the board? I dont think a picture of undersize fish on someones kitchen floor belongs on an angling forum as most of us on here are in it for the sport not to feed the bleedin cat.

It was me that posted it .... the original can be viewed in Cotaz's personal gallery

photo removed as per request


Andy

Some of the last few posts have included pretty nasty remarks about Cortaz, and to be honest they remind me of the kind of stuff thats common on the Brit angling sites. There is no need to insult the man, disagree with him if you want but don't resort to name calling.

Pete

For my 2 bobs worth I'd of left the picture on the forum, some will find it hard to believe without proof. I know it made me sick to see it!


Pete....he was called a poacher and an idiot, I don't see that as name calling, I see that as a true tag for his actions.

As far as the "Brit" sites go, your comment makes me laugh, take the chip off your shoulder :lol: :lol:
Tom.

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where bouts id ya catch thye bream and wat time of the year wuz it?????????

hi hairy
cunnigar beach outside dungarvan Co Waterford
may/set. july/august best
all cought dureing daylight never cought any after dark

cortazzzzz

[quote="rapala"]I wouldnt mind guessing some of those you are so proud to show off are ever so slightly undersize.
Numpties like you are so living in the dark ages, I suggest you wake up, then try and grow up.
You might call yourself an angler but I'd call you an idiot.

Could I also suggest that the moderator removes that picture from the board? I dont think a picture of undersize fish on someones kitchen floor belongs on an angling forum as most of us on here are in it for the sport not to feed the bleedin cat.[/quote

hi

whats the min. size limit for bream? tHERE IS NONE
cortazzz

he was called a poacher

Poacher was actually this guys user name before he changed it to Cortaz..... Nuff said I think.

Been sitting here wondering what reply to leave after seeing that photo myself b0ogaloo. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Disgusted

so was that 13 bass
cortazzzz

If you read the thread about the 13lb Bass you will see this

spent 5 minutes in the surf trying to get it to swim off but it just wouldn't move. I'd rather eat it than see it washed up next day. I did try to return and was almost beaten up for it too!!!

Andy

I'm with Andy on this one, I think that photo is disgusting too.

Some of the smaller fish in the photo makes me ask the question...what is it you return...

That photo may have been acceptable 10 or 15 years ago, but not today, with stocks being as bad and as low as they are.

Tom.

bream are on the increse around here whats the size limit????????
1 bass out of 40 for the pot and i get slagged off
the bream are non native may turn out to pests what if they drive out the bass or are carrying some parasite/disease
cortaz

If you read the thread about the 13lb Bass you will see this

spent 5 minutes in the surf trying to get it to swim off but it just wouldn't move. I'd rather eat it than see it washed up next day. I did try to return and was almost beaten up for it too!!!

Andy

a likely story
cortazzzz