HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

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HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby johnwest » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:31 pm

After a few poor enough sessions and a temporary diversion to the trout, I thought it was time to try the saltwater again. In with the gear and off I went. My primary intention was to try a shallow beach but with bright sunshine and mid ebb at around 6.30pm I headed for a deep water mark first. With two rods set up, 3 hook flapper and small baits and a pulley with a larger bait, the waiting began. An hour passed without so much as a tremble so a quick visit to the car for some grub seemed in order. 15 mins later I returned to the rods and decided to check the baits. I lifted the flapper rod and bent into something solid, a sandy bottom meant it wasn’t snagged on rocks etc. It slowly began to move and steady pressure kept it moving towards me. It suddenly took off in close and headed straight for some weed almost at my feet; a thornback. Twenty pound trace and size 4 hooks suggested a degree of caution and with the aid of a surge of water I beached her. After a couple of quick snaps, she weighed in at 9lb on the button, my best ray from the shore. I popped her back quickly as a happy event was imminent. This was my first thornback from this mark and it was also the earliest in the year I’ve ever got one so I was well pleased on all 3 counts. Things went quiet again for an hour, the weather as well as the fishing. Somewhere behind me I could hear a cock pheasant calling; I wondered what he had to shout about, I bet he hadn’t just caught his first thornback of the year. Something caught my eye in a nearby field, a fine looking cock pheasant out strutting in the sunshine. They’re just coming into their prime, a bit like myself. I was fairly certain it wasn’t the one I’d heard earlier, wrong direction, so I collected the binoculars from the car and had a scout around. Sure enough there was another one behind me, accompanied by a hen; that’s what he was crowing about! I wonder which of us was doing better? Even as I watched them I could hear a third one calling from further away. The things you see when you haven’t got a gun. Meanwhile a few delicate rattles showed on the flapper rod so I gave it time to develop before tightening into a fish; the first of three doggies, all welcome when there isn’t much else around. By now it was mid ebb and while sure I would have picked up a few more fish into darkness, I headed for the beach. There was very little surf despite the onshore breeze and I fished for a good three and a half hours without a bite. Eventually the larger bait fished at maximum distance induced a good strong initial lunge of the rod tip followed by a few more tugs and rattles so I struck but failed to connect. I fished on for another biteless 40 mins before deciding to pack it in. Still with the first ray of the year I was hopeful a corner had been turned.
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First of 2017, p.b. from shore.
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First of three
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby Sweetwrasse » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:44 pm

You were cock of the walk after that shore PB JW. Enjoyable report as always, thanks.
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby Teegerstk » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:26 pm

Nice ray jw! Hoping to catch my first ray this year. Good report
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby ste c » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:22 pm

Great stuff lovely fish well done

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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby chuckaroo » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:26 am

That's a big thornie JW, hats off. 8)

Have been at the trout myself, soon be time..
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby mickser » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:16 pm

Lovely ray for this time of year well done ad a great report
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby rushnaldo » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:45 pm

Great stuff jw

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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby rushnaldo » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:46 pm

Huge shore ray and great report

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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby kieran » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:15 am

nice ray, heading for Fenit and Kerry on Friday, hope to post up something similar! '0)

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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby johnwest » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:08 pm

kieran wrote:nice ray, heading for Fenit and Kerry on Friday, hope to post up something similar! '0)

Something a bit more exotic perhaps?
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby corbyeire » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:24 pm

hi johnwest, as your posts get good viewing, there is a change in the recommended way to hold rays - the suggestion now is to support them at the base of the tail while holding them at the top. the two handed hold on the top puts pressure on their internal organs lower down fyi
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby johnwest » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:01 pm

corbyeire wrote:hi johnwest, as your posts get good viewing, there is a change in the recommended way to hold rays - the suggestion now is to support them at the base of the tail while holding them at the top. the two handed hold on the top puts pressure on their internal organs lower down fyi


Thanks for your post corbyiere and sorry for taking a while to reply but I've been thinking a bit about this. I agree fully with the two bottom pics re gills, spiracles and tail but have doubts about the two "good practice" ones. The left one shows two guys holding a skate in the air, upright and by the leading edge of the wings but with no support at the base of the tail i.e. classic Ray pic. The right one shows one hand at the top and one at the base of the tail but if you hold the base of the tail your hand is below the abdomen so I don't see how you are supporting the organs; I don't think that hold is any different from the usual two at the top. I accept that holding a ray in the classic pose may cause some sagging of the abdominal organs but is there any actual evidence of this causing damage? Other sites I have read about skate fishing say the use of two gaffs in the wing edges to haul a fish aboard causes no permanent damage as witnessed by complete healing in fish which have been recaptured. I'd be interested in other people's opinions.
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Re: HooRAY in Donegal Bay, 6/4/2017

Postby corbyeire » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:52 pm

hi john, I doubt the shark trust would come up with this without any scientific evidence with the appropriate statistical significance and then request different organisations to use it

as far as I am aware SALC have asked for this to be taken into practice and as a consequence the IFSA have asked all their members to do the same

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