Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:48 pm
People: 2 of us, myself twice
Duration: 3 hours approx
Tide: high mostly
Weather: cold with light breezes
Bait: maddies, lug, rag, mack, crab
Rigs: 3 hook flappers
Results: 5 beards, flounder, whiting, coalies and a herring i think?
Report: on the 15th had maddies left over and wanted to make the most of them - but work meant i could only get out at night - there was plenty of a stir from the SW so east facing it was on a very calm stretch - thought it would bring the flounder out in settled water but no - the rockling and coalies were out
turned out to be a mild night, gd got a big 5 beardy but that was the height of the excitment - it was a lovely night to be out, very comfortable fishing
18th was different, again at night, good swell on a south facing beach nice breeze from the west, plenty of small rockling and flounders caught by others at comp below me. got 2 flounder myself a rockling and a 37cm coalie on crab, which was most welcome for the species hunt
heard of another chap getting 7 species - one being a 47cm codling - not to be sniffed at
22nd went onto the estuary intending to fish the piers but they were full of rods and plenty of small stuff coming in. went to the beach and got a coalie 33, whiting 33 a 5 beard 21 and a few more smaller ones - had a tiny flounder too
i also had what im thinking is a herring but then seems a bit too long and narrow - would like opinions
the old species hunt makes the messing around sessions a bit more interesting - few pics below
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Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:19 pm
defo not a herring, dont know what it is, has it sharp teeth like whiting

i hope you still have it.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:29 pm
im prob way off but it looks like a baby hake , real long body and longer bottom lip sharp teeth
Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:41 pm
It has a trout's head and what looks like an adipose fin but it doesn't look like its seatrout either.
Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:51 pm
Could it be a type of pollan?
Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:11 pm
Hake???
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Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:19 pm
it's not a hake.
Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:10 am
it might be him-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_smelt
Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:44 am
common smelt, and a big one at that.
Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:32 am
Smelt
taken from "Irish Sport Fishes - A guide to their identification. Central Fisheries Board"
SMELT Osmerus eperlanus B.
Fr. Eperlan; Ge. Stint; Du. Spierling; It. Sperlano, Eperlano; Sp. Eperldno.
Another small, slender forked-tailed fish, with a brilliant silvery stripe
along the side. A short but rather high-dorsal fin on the middle of the
back; a small adipose fin some distance behind it. Long, sharp teeth.
Grows to about a foot, usually 5-8 inches. Often confused with the
previous species, but is related to the salmon and trout rather than
the grey mullets. Smells strongly of cucumber. Estuarine; ascends to
tidal limits in spring to spawn. Landlocked (freshwater) populations
occur on the continent. Abundant in the Shannon; not recorded
elsewhere in Ireland.
Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:39 pm
Is a smelt the same as a scad?
Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:05 pm
It's a smelt,and a very big one at that, great pike bait.
Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:10 pm
They are wrong about one thing there, they are not confined to the Shannon, they have been removed from the cooling water screen at Coolkeeragh power station, on the shores of Lough Foyle. I also caught one, with my hands in a small pool, during the summer, in a river, a tributary of the Foyle and well inland, some 17 miles from the city of Derry/Londonderry. They do stink of cucumber, my hands were smelling of it for ages that day and it's teeth were very sharp. From what I learned about them, it would seem that the, like Sea Trout and Salmon come upstream to spawn, but no as far as it's two relations, so what that one was doing so far upstream I can't say.
reards Wez
Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:17 pm
mackfish wrote:Is a smelt the same as a scad?
They are no where near related, the Scad is also called the horse mackerel, whilst the Smelt is related to the salmonid family. The Scad is a fish of the open ocean, whilst the Smelt is an estuarial species. In short they are not the same and not even related.
Regards Wez
Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:29 pm
Interesting fish all the same lots of gnashers
Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:34 pm
yea big gob full of teeth like a whiting - funny shape on the lower jaw
im trying to think was there a smell of cucumber - thats mad
he went for frozen rag!
he went back john1 with all the rest of them - seems he was a bigger than average common smelt so
thanks for all the comments
Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:50 pm
A few decent sessions there Brian. Nice one for the species hunt too;-)
Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:44 am
Plenty of fish and a rare species, very well done lads.
Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:37 pm
Defo smelt..looks like a specimen.
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