The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:16 am

People: 26th Aug - Me, 2nd Sept - Me & Chenz

Bait: Rag & Limpet

Rigs: Float

Results: 32cm Ballan both days- the same fish?




Report: Hi guys, I have attached 2 pics of lovely Ballans I caught on the 26th Aug & 2nd Sept from the same mark. When I was going through my archive of images I noticed that the fish in both these pics have some identical markings and scars. It would be unreal to think that I caught the same fish twice. They where both caught on the same rig, bait and at the same spot just a week apart!

Similarities: The scar on the back just below the dorsal fin, also the white markings near the anal fin and beside the pectoral fin, the shape of the fish's head.

Due to different lighting conditions and camera the exposure and colour are slightly different.

It would be great to see what you guys think?
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:23 am

very terrortorial so very likely, well done :)

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:36 am

I caught the same conger 3 times in a week :roll:

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:42 am

Donnyboy1 wrote:very terrortorial so very likely, well done :)


Cool I didn't know that! Thanks :D

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:44 am

ShaneH wrote:I caught the same conger 3 times in a week :roll:


Wow :shock: how did you know it was the same conger?

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:11 am

magpie01 wrote:
ShaneH wrote:I caught the same conger 3 times in a week :roll:


Wow :shock: how did you know it was the same conger?

they were on speaking terms at that stage :lol: :lol:

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:20 am

This could be a different fish but same age and probably same school with same markings and would have been attacked by the same predator that is why the scar is similar near the fin.

Ballan 1 has a scar at the top of the tail which could not have healed that fast in 1 week and is missing on Ballan 2.

Just my observation.

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:31 am

id go with same fish, to many similar markings .it could have lost a few scales first time the skin would cover it up in a week

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:33 am

magpie01 wrote:
ShaneH wrote:I caught the same conger 3 times in a week :roll:


Wow :shock: how did you know it was the same conger?

His lower jaw was split and had a missing fin he was a real veteran

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:35 am

twinkle wrote:
magpie01 wrote:
ShaneH wrote:I caught the same conger 3 times in a week :roll:


Wow :shock: how did you know it was the same conger?

they were on speaking terms at that stage :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:39 am

simplywabs wrote:This could be a different fish but same age and probably same school with same markings and would have been attacked by the same predator that is why the scar is similar near the fin.

Ballan 1 has a scar at the top of the tail which could not have healed that fast in 1 week and is missing on Ballan 2.

Just my observation.


Hey simplywabs, thanks for the reply!

I saw that on the tail too, but I don't think it's a scar! It looks like a bit of debris on top of the tail opposed to a scar. I think that because the tail is so thin it would probably tear rather than scar. I have caught a few wrasse from this mark and each one looks very different, that's why I think this could be the same fish.

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:43 am

ShaneH wrote:
magpie01 wrote:
ShaneH wrote:I caught the same conger 3 times in a week :roll:


Wow :shock: how did you know it was the same conger?

His lower jaw was split and had a missing fin he was a real veteran


Incredible! :D

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:19 pm

Same fish alright. Nice one.

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:46 pm

twinkle wrote:id go with same fish, to many similar markings .it could have lost a few scales first time the skin would cover it up in a week


cathalger wrote:Same fish alright. Nice one.


Cheers guys!

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:14 pm

Now that Ballan is down there telling his mates that he was caught by the same human twice in one week. Not sure if you have any scars etc but he's probably describing your discernible features to them.

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:41 pm

magpie01 wrote:
Donnyboy1 wrote:very terrortorial so very likely, well done :)


Cool I didn't know that! Thanks :D

This explains how wrasse marks can be destroyed by every fish caught being killed.
I would suggest that it is the same fish; I have seen the same pike caught twice on the same day and have caught the same pike twice at a week interval.

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:13 pm

johnwest wrote:
magpie01 wrote:
Donnyboy1 wrote:very terrortorial so very likely, well done :)


Cool I didn't know that! Thanks :D

This explains how wrasse marks can be destroyed by every fish caught being killed.
I would suggest that it is the same fish; I have seen the same pike caught twice on the same day and have caught the same pike twice at a week interval.



Very good point John! I'm a firm believer of Catch and Release!

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:18 pm

Stephen8wood wrote:Now that Ballan is down there telling his mates that he was caught by the same human twice in one week. Not sure if you have any scars etc but he's probably describing your discernible features to them.


Haha true! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:54 pm

hooked a thornback ray at tarbert some years ago, after a struggle i lost the fish as the trace parted while snagged, i swore it was a monster, all me mates beside me taking this all in, i replaced the trace line and sent another mackeral bait out...... 15 minutes later a 4 1/2 lb thornback was laying on the pier with both my traces in its mouth!!!! there were alot of sore ribs that nite on tarbert pier!!

Re: The same fish - what are the chances???

Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:59 pm

booner wrote:hooked a thornback ray at tarbert some years ago, after a struggle i lost the fish as the trace parted while snagged, i swore it was a monster, all me mates beside me taking this all in, i replaced the trace line and sent another mackeral bait out...... 15 minutes later a 4 1/2 lb thornback was laying on the pier with both my traces in its mouth!!!! there were alot of sore ribs that nite on tarbert pier!!


Brilliant, glad to hear ya finally landed it! A thornie is on the wishlist! :wink: