West Waterford - 16th November 2008
Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:25 pm
People: Me
Duration: 4.15 - 10.15 pm
Tide: HW at 7.30 pm
Weather: Calm, very light southwesterly, mild, dry.
Bait: Rag, mackerel, frozen black lug, razor, prawn, mussel, clam, sandeel
Rigs: 3/0 pennel pulleys, 3/0 single hook flapper, two hook flapper (size 1/0 and 2)
Results: 11 dogfish
Report: I picked an excellent looking mark off the OSI website and decided to give it a shot. But looking at the OSI aerial photos it looked as if it would only be readily accessible when the tide was low. I got there at about 3.00 pm but thought I should check it out first so I left the gear in the car - there was a bit of a scramble over boulders along the shore but found there was a nice little beach there and plenty of room to move back at high tide as I would be cut off close to high tide. As it was very calm there was just a very weak surf - so probably not ideal but it looked a excellent mark so I thought I would give it a go anyway. I went back to the car, decided it would be better to travel light so took a couple of rods, the rod stand and four 5 oz gripper weights. Then as I was setting up I realized I left my lamps in the car
So had to make the journey again for the third time - it was about 4.15 before the first line hit the water.
I had just finished setting up the second rod when there was a knock on the first - a dogfish on a 3/0 pennel baited with rag/razor.
So I thought that was a good start - however, it went quite after that - giving me time to admire a nice sunset.
After dark at about 6.30 pm the dogfish onslought commenced. In the space of an hour up to high tide they were non-stop. I experimented a bit with the second rod - using a variety of baits on the two hook flapper that kept the dogfish off - mussel, clam, prawn but there was nothing else biting. I tried casting in short, moderate distance and further out but the only thing I could catch were dogfish. Most of them were putting up surprisingly strong fights - there was only one that came in fairly passively. Each time I was thinking that maybe this one was a bass, but it wasn't too be.
Eventually I got to nine dogfish - the tide was starting to drop at this stage but I thought it would be nice to make it to ten. So I retrieved the second rod and tipped the mussel bait with a mackerel strip. Cast out, and then took in the first rod and rigged up the pennel with sandeel which I have always found to be irresistable to dogfish - but before I could cast it out there was a knock on the other rod - the tenth dogfish
I then cast out the rod with the sandeel and it wasn't long before there was a bite - the eleventh dogfish.
The tide had dropped sufficiently at this stage for me to get back out - although a bit trickier in the dark. I need a better lamp.
That was the most dogfish I ever caught in one session. But good sport as they did put up a good struggle. Definitely a mark with good potential if there was a better surf so one I will certainly be returning too.
Duration: 4.15 - 10.15 pm
Tide: HW at 7.30 pm
Weather: Calm, very light southwesterly, mild, dry.
Bait: Rag, mackerel, frozen black lug, razor, prawn, mussel, clam, sandeel
Rigs: 3/0 pennel pulleys, 3/0 single hook flapper, two hook flapper (size 1/0 and 2)
Results: 11 dogfish
Report: I picked an excellent looking mark off the OSI website and decided to give it a shot. But looking at the OSI aerial photos it looked as if it would only be readily accessible when the tide was low. I got there at about 3.00 pm but thought I should check it out first so I left the gear in the car - there was a bit of a scramble over boulders along the shore but found there was a nice little beach there and plenty of room to move back at high tide as I would be cut off close to high tide. As it was very calm there was just a very weak surf - so probably not ideal but it looked a excellent mark so I thought I would give it a go anyway. I went back to the car, decided it would be better to travel light so took a couple of rods, the rod stand and four 5 oz gripper weights. Then as I was setting up I realized I left my lamps in the car
So had to make the journey again for the third time - it was about 4.15 before the first line hit the water. I had just finished setting up the second rod when there was a knock on the first - a dogfish on a 3/0 pennel baited with rag/razor.
So I thought that was a good start - however, it went quite after that - giving me time to admire a nice sunset.
After dark at about 6.30 pm the dogfish onslought commenced. In the space of an hour up to high tide they were non-stop. I experimented a bit with the second rod - using a variety of baits on the two hook flapper that kept the dogfish off - mussel, clam, prawn but there was nothing else biting. I tried casting in short, moderate distance and further out but the only thing I could catch were dogfish. Most of them were putting up surprisingly strong fights - there was only one that came in fairly passively. Each time I was thinking that maybe this one was a bass, but it wasn't too be.
Eventually I got to nine dogfish - the tide was starting to drop at this stage but I thought it would be nice to make it to ten. So I retrieved the second rod and tipped the mussel bait with a mackerel strip. Cast out, and then took in the first rod and rigged up the pennel with sandeel which I have always found to be irresistable to dogfish - but before I could cast it out there was a knock on the other rod - the tenth dogfish
I then cast out the rod with the sandeel and it wasn't long before there was a bite - the eleventh dogfish.
The tide had dropped sufficiently at this stage for me to get back out - although a bit trickier in the dark. I need a better lamp.
That was the most dogfish I ever caught in one session. But good sport as they did put up a good struggle. Definitely a mark with good potential if there was a better surf so one I will certainly be returning too.
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Last edited by RockHunter on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: West Waterford - 16th November 2008
Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:02 pm
Spinning from the rocks for the first 2-3 hours of the tide can be good for bass at that mark.
Re: West Waterford - 16th November 2008
Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:54 pm
well done done to you 2, mark seems so familiar i cant put my finger on it 
Re: West Waterford - 16th November 2008
Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:29 pm
it a good mark that fishes well if theres a surf u can get rays of the point in the distance..........................................................
Re: West Waterford - 16th November 2008
Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:09 pm
RockHunter wrote:
[ Then as I was setting up I realized I left my lamps in the car
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That happened me before, got to the beach, set up, couldnt find my lamp,,scrambled back up to where the car was and you guessed it,,,the lamp was in my bag down below the whole time
Great report again Frank, nice pics too,,,i havent been getting too many doggies lately and when i do i'm actually very pleased to catch them. You certainly cover your options with the different baits,,i'm going to try prawns next time out,, i got some large mussels last time and found them much easier to work with than the smaller ones i got the first time.
Re: West Waterford - 16th November 2008
Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:21 pm
Thanks guys,
I am quite happy to catch a few too - but a bit more variety would have been welcome. Still it was nice to catch a bunch since nothing else seemed to be biting. I wonder how many I would have caught if I had concentrated on using mackerel bait on the second rod too - or mackerel/sandeel sliver - a lethal doggie combination I found.
I brought a big range of bait with me yesterday as it was a new mark and I didn't know what to expect - the only thing I was missing was peeler crab - I am finding it difficult to get at the moment.
eyesreilly wrote:i havent been getting too many doggies lately and when i do i'm actually very pleased to catch them
I am quite happy to catch a few too - but a bit more variety would have been welcome. Still it was nice to catch a bunch since nothing else seemed to be biting. I wonder how many I would have caught if I had concentrated on using mackerel bait on the second rod too - or mackerel/sandeel sliver - a lethal doggie combination I found.
eyesreilly wrote:You certainly cover your options with the different baits
I brought a big range of bait with me yesterday as it was a new mark and I didn't know what to expect - the only thing I was missing was peeler crab - I am finding it difficult to get at the moment.