Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:44 pm
This guy in the UK caught this 19lb-11 3/4oz Bass over the weekend! Incredible fish.
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Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:45 pm
Sorry for the 3 pics not sure how I done that. Can mods remove 2?
Cheers,
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:04 pm
Jasus....thats some fish :shock: :shock: did he kill it :?: :?:
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:11 pm
Paul B wrote:Jasus....thats some fish :shock: :shock: did he kill it :?: :?:
yep he killed it! a fish of around 30 years of age possibly! escaped nets, preadtords and god knows what else :evil: ....what happens he kills it for a trophy! shamefull hope he blanks for a couple of years :evil: :x
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:16 pm
Paul B wrote:Jasus....thats some fish :shock: :shock: did he kill it :?: :?:
if he wants to claim it as a record then im pretty sure the carcus is needed.
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:27 pm
paulocallaghan wrote:Paul B wrote:Jasus....thats some fish :shock: :shock: did he kill it :?: :?:
if he wants to claim it as a record then im pretty sure the carcus is needed.
Some people would say that doesn't make it right...
Personally I think a fish of that size and age has already spawned numerous times, and is probably very near the end of its natural lifespan. If you really want to have a record fish and the carcass is required, then go ahead and kill it. My problem is with anglers killing fish just to claim a specimen (don't have to look too far eh :roll: ). Such fish could live for many more years and spawn q good few more times, contributing far more than they will stuffed in a case, or remembered with a certificate
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:33 pm
Would a photograph and measurements not suffice or does a fish have to be killed to claim a record ??
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:37 pm
My problem is with anglers killing fish just to claim a specimen (don't have to look too far eh :roll:
Here we go again :roll: :roll: :roll:
Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:44 pm
The British shore caught bass record has been smashed with a 19lb 11oz 12dr beauty from Sandown Pier, Isle of Wight, Total-Fishing.com can exclusively report.
The mighty bass was taken last night (Saturday) by local angler Steve Cave, who was fishing a whole squid bait. The venue has a record of producing good bass – last year it threw up a 14-pounder and Steve has previously had bass to 7lb 11oz.
The fish, which is now at Scotties tackle shop in Sandown, measured 36 inches long and was described by Steve as ‘fat as hell’. It beats the long standing shore caught record of 19lb, a fish caught way back in 1988 from Dover breakwater.
Steve with his new British record shore caught bass weighing 19lb 11oz 12dr
“I fish the pier a couple of times a week and always fish big baits with big fish in mind,” Steve told Total-Fishing.com’s Gareth Purnell.
“Lucky was with me really. The fish came at 11pm when I was chatting away to my mate Alan Beenie. I had to rush to the rod and only just managed to grab the end before it went over the side.
“Alan did the honours with the drop net, but the first one was too small and he had to rush to get a bigger one! Will I be making a claim – you bet I will!”
The fish was weighed twice on the pier at 19lb 12oz and then in the tackle shop at 19lb 11oz 12dr. Scotties manager Paul Jackson is helping Steve, who is considering having the fish set up, with the claim.
Steve fished a Penn rod with an Abu 6500 multiplier, 20lb mainline, an 18lb hooklength and a size 6/0 Longshank hook.
Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:06 pm
paulocallaghan wrote:Paul B wrote:Jasus....thats some fish :shock: :shock: did he kill it :?: :?:
if he wants to claim it as a record then im pretty sure the carcus is needed.
You don't need the carcass in Ireland to claim a record.
In the UK, however, it seems they strongly advise you retain the fish.
http://www.nfsa.org.uk/records/how_claim.htm6. IDENTIFICATION OF SPECIES.
The Committee is required from time to time to consider claims for fish of species which cannot be determined to its satisfaction without inspection. For this reason and others, claimants are strongly advised not to liberate or otherwise dispose of a fish for which it is intended to enter a claim until an inspection of the body, dead or alive, has been made by a representative of the committee and permission given for disposal.
While claimants should recognise that failure to produce the fish for inspection may prove prejudicial to the acceptance of a claim, the Committee does not bind itself to reject a claim solely because inspection has not been made.
All carriage costs incurred in production of the fish for inspection by the committee must be borne by the claimant.
Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:12 pm
Mother of Christ. I've had bass to 9lb I can't even comprehend what a 20lber could do. :shock:
Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:13 pm
So jd just to clear it up if you wanted to claim a specimen in Ireland you would photograph and measure length and girth ???
Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:18 pm
and weigh it with a certified scales
Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:05 pm
As the lads mentioned Paul, you would need a certified scales and a witness, if I remember correctly. Scales have to be certified every year. This service is done from free if I remember correctly.
Kev
Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:12 pm
Thanks Kev,
So do you buy a digital scales and get them certified by somebody ???
Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:19 pm
MAC wrote:As the lads mentioned Paul, you would need a certified scales and a witness, if I remember correctly. Scales have to be certified every year. This service is done from free if I remember correctly.
Kev
Kev, you're not required to have a witness. If you were on your own and there were no witnesses, there is a section on the form you have to get signed by a Peace Commissioner.
Also, in the UK, as in Ireland, its only with species that can be confused with other species that they require you to retain the fish. Bass is not easily confused with other species present in British or irish waters, whereas species like roach, rudd, bream, and hybrids of same, and the different mullet species, would be more difficult to differentiate between.
Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:51 pm
Hi Bradan
the advice seems to be quite strong
claimants are strongly advised not to liberate or otherwise dispose of a fish for which it is intended to enter a claim until an inspection of the body, dead or alive, has been made by a representative of the committee and permission given for disposal.
While claimants should recognise that failure to produce the fish for inspection may prove prejudicial to the acceptance of a claim, the Committee does not bind itself to reject a claim solely because inspection has not been made.
The British Committee should be more explicit on which species need to be retained. The Irish guideline seem more progressive.
Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:55 pm
jd wrote:Hi Bradan
the advice seems to be quite strong
claimants are strongly advised not to liberate or otherwise dispose of a fish for which it is intended to enter a claim until an inspection of the body, dead or alive, has been made by a representative of the committee and permission given for disposal.
While claimants should recognise that failure to produce the fish for inspection may prove prejudicial to the acceptance of a claim, the Committee does not bind itself to reject a claim solely because inspection has not been made.
The British Committee should be more explicit on which species need to be retained. The Irish guideline seem more progressive.
You're right JD, but that quote follows the first line
The Committee is required from time to time to consider claims for fish of species which cannot be determined to its satisfaction without inspection. For this reason and others, claimants are strongly advised not to liberate or otherwise dispose of a fish for which it is intended to enter a claim until an inspection of the body, dead or alive, has been made by a representative of the committee and permission given for disposal.
They do need to be more explicit, but I would imagine this still refers only to fish which bear close resemblance to other species. I can't imagine they would turn down a specimen claim for a bass, for instance, or a blue shark, etc.
Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:00 pm
as far as i am aware and i stand to be corrected, but i think that claiming a record fish is slightly different to claiming a normal specimen. i seem to remember hearing something about having to get the museum of natural history to confirm that it is the largest specimen of that species.
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