Striking on what bite!

[kopidol]

Hi just wondering when is the best time to strike rod when you get a bite?ive been striking on the second bite but im seem to be taking the bait out of their mouth!

[yngkmd]

it really depends on what tactics\rig you are using, where you are fishing, what kind of ground you are fishing over and what you are fishing for.

can you ellaborate?

[Rampent Wreckfish]

Hi just wondering when is the best time to strike rod when you get a bite?ive been striking on the second bite but im seem to be taking the bait out of their mouth!

Just dont strike.
Absolutly no need for it.
Just give the fish a bit of time to take the bait then reel in. Easy.

[RockHunter]

Just dont strike.
Absolutly no need for it.
Just give the fish a bit of time to take the bait then reel in. Easy.

It probably depends on the type of fish - I give flounder, codling plenty of time to take the bait, but if its bass I find they often drop the bait immediately they find some resistance, many a time if I had not struck to set the hook they come off on the retrieve.
I would think that if fishing for sea trout the same would apply.

[Rampent Wreckfish]

Just dont strike.
Absolutly no need for it.
Just give the fish a bit of time to take the bait then reel in. Easy.

It probably depends on the type of fish - I give flounder, codling plenty of time to take the bait, but if its Bass I find they often drop the bait immediately they find some resistance, many a time if I had not struck to set the hook they come off on the retrieve.
I would think that if fishing for sea trout the same would apply.

Funny that. I dont ever miss bass bites and I have not struck a fish since I was a kid.
I just let the griplead set the hook for me.
This also helps with catching doubles and "tribbles" .

[rocketman]

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id imagine rampent wreckfish didnt strike too many bites when he won gold at the world championships in south africa. i know whos advice id be taking.


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[kstaff]

I've just emptied all the strikes from my tackle box, it has been decided, striking is out!!!

[chuckaroo]

would defo agree with rampant wreckfish here
worrying about when to strike a bite tells just of a little bit of a lack of self confidence/doubt.. dont worry about it.
if fish are nibbling and biting and youre not catching them then there is every good chance that they have a small mouth and that you are using too big-a-hook, or too big a bait for that fish. simple IMHO. they could be holding one end of the bait/hook without the point of the hook in it
fish should take a bait and give a good yank to ensure that they hook themselves. no need to strike, just pull into it
persist

hope this helps

some fish also become wary of baits/lures that they miss or dont trust after the first go. they might just toy with it thereafter or they might give up on it, depending on species, competition, hunger!..

[yngkmd]

i like striking, i wont pretend it stops fish from swallowing the bait but one of my favourite summer tactics is float fishing of the rocks, and stirking into a plump wrasse or decent pollock on light gear, having the rod buckle over in your hand and then feeling the full force of their first run as they tear off is a feeling that cant be beat.

[Tommy B]

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id imagine rampent wreckfish didnt strike too many bites when he won gold at the world championships in south africa. i know whos advice id be taking.


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I wouldn't ignore rockhunters advice either have a look at his reports:) I think it's a bit of a can't answer question, up to the individual
and the fish.

Tommy

[saving private brian]

we never strike for flounders but when u leave them nibbling away and you reel in,the hooks half way down his belly and hard to unhook

[Rampent Wreckfish]

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id imagine rampent wreckfish didnt strike too many bites when he won gold at the world championships in south africa. i know whos advice id be taking.


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I think it's a bit of a can't answer question, up to the individual
and the fish.

Tommy

I dont agree with you at all on this, How is it a "cant answer question"?

You either catch more fish striking or you dont.
From my experience you will catch alot more fish leaving them to hook themselves.

If you are missing fish it is down to your hook choice and bait presentation and not how quickly you can "strike"(pull the bait away from the fish).

I know it can be very exciting watching the rod buckle over or see the line go slack but leaving a fish out there on a slack line does not reduce your chances of catching said fish infact it may give you more time to get a second one from the shoal or if the fish drops the bait it gives him a chance to pick it up again.

You will catch both large and small fish on small hooks but you will only catch large fish with large hooks(in general, there is always that eager fish that will get himself onto a hook.)
Match your bait to your hooksize.
For example there is not much point in putting a whole large razor and blacklug cocktail on a size 4 the same as there is not much point in putting a small blow lug and maddies on a 4/0 pennel because the chances are you will miss more fish than you catch.

Good bait presentation is the key and just leave them at it for a few minutes.

The chances are that most large mouthed fish are actually hooked the first time they take a bait anyway but why not give them a chance to make sure.

[Donagh]

I wouldn't strike a bite ever. The question is more what time you lift into a fish. Leaving baits out longer ups the number of fish but also increases the depth the hook can be swallowed so a gemini disgourger should be on hand.

Where I would recommend lifting into fish sooner rather than later is rough ground fish for conger and huss close in with a ledger. Huss especially spit baits and both will go for a bolt hole.Wrasse close in would have similar issues.

[Tanglerat]

Strike, don't strike, delay strike? I can't wait to see this topic when someone mentions circle hooks!

[eddie]

circle hooks sorry lads couldnt help it

[fearghal fishing]

In my opinion,I would use different methods of setting the hook for different fish/methods,for example if float fishing for pollack I would wait for the float to dive under before striking,winding in the float might just pull the bait from its mouth.if I was spinning a sand eel or a spoon for pollack i would just wind into it,if using a pulley rig the chances are the fish will set the hook its self.

[JOHN1]

circle hooks sorry lads couldnt help it

whats a circle hook

[Tommy B]

Rampant [/quote]

I dont agree with you at all on this, How is it a "cant answer question"?

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Rampant you have the medals for not striking the fish straight away and rockhopper has the results with striking straight away... so what is the answer?
Really depends on what you are fishing for and the way you are fishing. I would agree with you and rockhopper but I wouldnt pick one over the other.

Tommy

[JOHN1]

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. I would agree with you and rockhopper but I wouldnt pick one over the other.

Tommy[/quote]
it's rockhunter,tommy

rockhopper stopped posting on here a long time back

[Tommy B]

oops rockhoppers are good fishers too

Thanks John