Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:53 am
Hi guys - I was thinking of incorporating a swimfeeder into some of my rigs (especially scratching rigs). I was planning on using a film canister, drilled with holes and threaded on behind the lead. Then maybe stuff it with cotton soaked in the icky fish and worm juice from my bait tray. Any of you guys have any other tips/ideas on the matter?
Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:54 am
sorry - that was me
Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:13 am
how are you Bob. i have tried using these before, both the sponge and juice and the fish filled cannister. definately worth persueing. the only problem is casting. film cannisters are quite bulky. they are ideal though for scratching using small baits fishing at close range. it can sometimes be easier to just whip old baits onto the lead. i will be trying out different feeeders over the next month or two and will let you know what works and what fails miserably!! it should make the scratching a little more interesting!
Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:55 am
i had a similar idea, check out the results
http://fiskeforum.se/ff/index.php?PHPSE ... topic=10.0
i use chopped liver in the feeder... lots of blood to attract the fish
Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:12 pm
Cheers lads, as I said, Im going to give it a lash aswell so ill let you know how I get on also. Fogelberg - the link you posted describes pretty much what I was planning to do, perhaps a few more holes in the side, nice to see other ideas tho'
Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:16 pm
Bob wrote:Cheers lads, as I said, Im going to give it a lash aswell so ill let you know how I get on also. Fogelberg - the link you posted describes pretty much what I was planning to do, perhaps a few more holes in the side, nice to see other ideas tho'
i think that if you puré liver, and put in the filmcanister it will pour out to quickly if you have too many holes in it or even pour out when you cast, i havent had a chance to try my feeder out yet due to bad clothing :cry:
have to invest in a floater or a 2 piece fishing suit
Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:43 pm
Have used swim feeder a few times when fishing for rockling in around the boulders on the back of bangor pier ,find if you use poridge oats mixed through your mixture soaks up any excess oil and blood to release it slowly ,you have to be careful though cos congers will pick up the feeder !!
Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:57 pm
R.Surgenor wrote:Have used swim feeder a few times when fishing for rockling in around the boulders on the back of bangor pier ,find if you use poridge oats mixed through your mixture soaks up any excess oil and blood to release it slowly ,you have to be careful though cos congers will pick up the feeder !!
good thing we dont have congers here, i would crap my pants if i caught one of those bastards
Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:40 pm
Never thought about the congers, lol - might stick on a treble hook
Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:01 pm
You ever try getting a hook out of a conger ,hard enough with one never mind three :lol: :lol:
we tend to tie the feeder to a seperate line leave it down a hole between the boulders fro a while then go fish in it ,gives the fish a chance to home in on the scent ,found crushed hard back crab works a treat ,put a couple in a lunch box mash them up with pieces of mackerel and a tin of sardines throw in a couple of handfulls of oats ,then put some of the mixture into your feeder .
if your fishing any sort of distance get a long tail grip lead and put your canister on the tail section with lid nearest the lead so it doesn't pop of on impact with the water .
Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:22 pm
Ronald,
You seeing a marked increase in bites with the swimfeeder? Have been considering trying something similar but never got round to it. Are your swimfeeders the film canisters or open-ended coarse fishing ones? Judging by your rough ground rockling in the gallery I think I'm going to do some experimenting, haven't seen one that size for awhile.
Pete
Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:54 pm
It certainly all makes sense guys, Im gonna put it into practise this weekend
Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:57 am
The idea of a feeder really appeals to me and i have lost a fair few of them at this stage, definatly better to make your own film case version than buy-em as they help the trace snag on rough ground :oops: I have lost a few full rigs and now use a weak link to the feeder. (some come with a little bit of string attached). One thing i have found is that its better to not to stuff them full as the compressed bait bits don't seem to work as well as more loose particles, i have never tried mixing with meal or oats but it seems like a good plan and have seen it done with rubby dubby.
m.b3 - Will definatly give lashing any scrap bait to the lead a go that never occured to me before but makes good sense :lol:
Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:16 pm
Hi guys,
I have thought of using some sort of swinfeeder in the past but could never figure out how to do it. I must say this film case sound brilliant, can't wait to try it out! I think it should be very effective for shore fishing but do ye think it would be any good for boat fishing, obviously good on the anchor but what about the drift?
Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:25 pm
for anchored boat fishing you're as well using the old faithful onion bag , or 2 or 3 paper bags inside each other with a stone inside with the rubby dubby. Puts out more stuff than a film canister & over a longer period of time.
Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:30 pm
Watched screaming reels on H&L last week and saw Mary Gavin Hughs was using a home made plastic swim feeder boat fishing for ray. It was a cut off end of a clear plastic bottle with holes in it. There was old worm, fish and fish oil all compacted down into the feeder. She also had muppets and luminous beads on her traces for ledgering for ray.
Donagh
Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:48 pm
i never thought of the application of a swim feeder for boat fishing, but again it all makes sense. I suppose part of the idea came from a three hook flapper - more bait in the water = stronger scent = more fish in the swim going for the hook baits. What I would be really interested in is an aero dynamic feeder, something that could stand up to a distance cast, maybe a rounded bottom on the feeder, or something with a lesser diameter - what dya think?
Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:14 pm
i have been thinking for some time now about making or building a new type of feeder.
We all use some type of sinker, right?
some have had problems with feeders getting snagged in traces and rigs, right?
How about this one, take some steel pipe, drill holes in it, place and caps and in some way arrange a swivel in one end cap to tie the line. Replace this one with the sinker you usually use and you have a feeder/sinker in one, getting rid of snags.
paint the sinker/feeder in a rust preventive or use a stainless steel tube. But it would be better to paint the sinker/feeder in a color that represents the bottomcolor.
Now i gave up my idea loosing millions in cash since i havent got a patent on it :roll: :roll:
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:17 pm
How about using a 5 inch length of 22mm copper pipe, squashed at one end with a hole drilled in it for a split ring/swivel. You could then use a 22mm compression end stop, which is basically a screw on cap (€0.60). You could drill holes in the copper, fill it with your gooey mush and cast out using this instead of a weight. Dunno the actual weight yet though, I'll make one up and try it out this weekend if I can.
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:24 pm
IDPearl wrote:How about using a 5 inch length of 22mm copper pipe, squashed at one end with a hole drilled in it for a split ring/swivel. You could then use a 22mm compression end stop, which is basically a screw on cap (€0.60). You could drill holes in the copper, fill it with your gooey mush and cast out using this instead of a weight. Dunno the actual weight yet though, I'll make one up and try it out this weekend if I can.
good solution and easier done than my idea, but i think that will be to light compared to the steelpipe, but lead can solve any weight problem.
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