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Crack Offs

Postby Kraken » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:37 pm

Can anyone tell me what causes a crack off??

Was out practice casting in Clonea on Friday
(between the downpours :evil: ) and was
doing okay with some nice casts
until I got a serious crack off.

Hate losing leads etc :evil: but I think the
sound of it is so cool :shock: :roll:

I did notice that during the first half of the cast
the line was "lifting" off the spool but would settle
down as it got nearer the end of the cast.

Was using a 4oz lead with a 525 mag
(mag setting @ fast ) and 0.35mm line.

Casting style was a variation on a wellknown
corkmans method :D :D :D ( u know who you are :D :D )
- I guess it was a kinda aerialised OTG???? Or not -
I cant really put a name to it :wink: :?

Is it down to line lay?? casting method?? reel and line??
too low/high a weight??

Any help greatly appreciated

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Postby donal domeney » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:47 pm

Remember what I said, set the magnets to full on it's not about distance its learning a new style. The distance comes only when you perfect the cast.
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Postby paddyc » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:12 am

your spot on donal, again its a hard one to pin-piont but IMO rushing the cast, a jerky cast, bad line lay, any of these can lead to crack offs and then again some days i get them and just cant explain why..
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Postby MAC » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:25 am

Spot on Donal....

When even I am trying something new I always go back to full Mag settings. Remember distance is not the concern. Try to perfect the new style until you are hitting them sweet and then start moving off the Mags.

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Postby Century Man » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:51 pm

IMO there's no way a little 4oz lead is goin to keep up with a 525
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Postby roger de dodger » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:43 pm

did u get a bad birdy when u cracked off ie. was it at the very start of the cast or (shockleader knot )or 1/4 -1/2 of the cast (when the line was lifting slightly ) a different leader knot or 1 oz more lead may fix the problem or a little bit of magnet power if you like the 4oz lead
then again i,m no expert just learning like everyone else the day i know it all is the day to stop :lol:
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Postby Mr_Green » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:12 pm

Could be the leader knot hitting the top eye causing the line to slow down while the lead is still bein propelled so fast the line couldnt stop it...
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Postby Kraken » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:23 pm

Thanks for the replys lads.

Think my leader knot is okay - seems nice and tidy enough. Will put the mags back on until I get smoother as suggested.

Will also experiment with a 5 and 6 oz lead to see if that makes any difference.

Must try to get a vid up here and see what ye all make of it :oops:


will report back on next session (once the winds calm down a bit)


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Postby donal domeney » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:17 am

What make and model of rod are you using. They may say 4-8oz but a lot of rods could not take the pressure of a 6oz lead and would collapse under the strain turning your cast into pully. I use the td-xs 133pm with a 6oz lead but would never use 6oz on the Supercast as I can feel the the rod collapsing when trying to hit the same distance
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Postby Rockhopper » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:53 am

John,

You just mentioned "winds" a head-wind on a 4oz lead can cause a crack-off for the best of them.

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Postby IDPearl » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:56 am

Also depends on your line level. If you are filling the spool, you may have a problem with the lighter mags. Try lowering your spool level (ie - take some line off) so the line level is 2mm below the edge of the spool.

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