Munster Closed 4th leg

yeah the four clubs and the munster council could hold a meeting,i touhgt there was a score card dogfish thats is used most legs use the same one.

In my opinion this is what could be done:
1. One entry up Front so that all the clubs that are holding the legs will have the same prize fund pool.

2. the clubs who are holding the leg will have a back up venue in the event of bad weather
Decided on before comp and not on the day to decide where to go and clearly outlined on forms.

3.The clubs holding the comps have a meeting to set out the rules and formulate of the score card so that there is a uniformity across the board.

4. That here is NO other comps held on the weekend of comp in order if nessariy to change day.
anyway these are my thoughts on this.

These are good ideas but I think the first thing to do is to get the anglers out first not just get there money at the start of the year.

I have not fished the Munster closed although I have fished quite a lot of the comps as opens on the day so I can see this from the outside.

Anglers need to be motivated to come to all the comps in the league. what is happening is that when it comes to the last match some lads are out of the running and dont see the point in turning up.

The actual munster team at the end have a nice prize fund but if there were say 10 placings with prizes at the end more people would be in with a shot of getting a prize.

I know it wont work for next year but in the future if the league was extended to seven comps with the best 5 counting it would give lads a chance to have a couple of bad days and still not be out of it.

Just as a point any of the munster closed comps that I have fished have all been run really well so this is not a problem and look at the teams they have produced out of this league. They are by far the strongest in the country. There is also some excellent and committed anglers outside this team aslo that should get some recognition for there skill and effort and having top 10 placings would help with this.

I do agree with points 2,3 and 4.

just as well you put that part in about who made the team jp or you be linched in the square in fungarven ha ha .
best thing is get as many good ideas as posable together for next years agm.

It could be carnage ha ha.

I might even fish myself next year as I now seem to be living down here for the forseeable future.

Ah a score card that makes sense ! MAKES SENSE
Lets get rid of the double bubble for a ray for a start what a load of
Whats the diff between a ray and any other fish?

JP or Rampent is welcome in dungarvan anyday but the village is where he really needs to be unless he is making latte's in the parish mmmmmmmm!

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i also agree with rampent that the league should be extended to seven or possibly eight legs.

as for paying up front i think at 25 bucks per leg this would put off alot of anglers in the present climate.

at seven or eight legs the entry fee could be dropped to a more reasonable level which would not affect the overall contribution to the munster team or the takings to the organising clubs but it would make a big difference to hard pressed anglers who would be keen to attend but are put off by a currently high entry fee in relation to the potential chance at a prize.

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Delegates meeting/EGM in Jan. make sure your club is present and your ideas are on the table.
This is the place to put your ideas forward

lads some good points of view have to agree with jp on the idea of a leauge basis also fishcycle your bang on with this ray rubbish lets do as rocketman suggests and get the anglers together and see what we can come up with i think the sooner we do this the better or we will have the same thing for the future hope to talk to you all soon paudie

Jp i agree with that you have to get the anglers on to the beach first the idea that the money is paid up front is to ensure that you have a prize fund that reflects across the four comps.
The idea that it could be fished over 7 legs as in a league is very intresting, how would you fit in the 7 legs in a very tight scheduled, what if the clubs that are holding the leg runs them in conjuntion with their own Open shores comps just an idea.

i know we cant control the weather but would you fish any storm beach after a storm?
and with all the good ideas we just have to make sure we get the best ones out for all the anglers and take into account that how much time is involved in running and how hard it is to orgnize these competitions.i have been involved in running legs since it went to four legs and know what time and effort goes i (or should)nto these competitions.

Lads 7 or 8 legs is a bit excessive... not everyone has the weekends off. Besides I don't know about ye but I already have around 25 comps a year not including the Munsters in their present format or the all ireland.

The way it is at the moment isn't the best but it seems to work... look at how strong the team is afterall.

Maybe a bit better planning would do the trick? like a few of the lads mentioned better date selection would surely improve it? possibly one per season?

The last comp is always going to be hard to fill but what if the money was paid for the 1st two legs on day one then the last two legs on the 3rd leg?? this would get people to the last comp without breaking the bank at the start of the year?

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hey sully,


how about getting your club to take a leg or two and run them as yer open competitions that way no extra comps and you'd be going anyway plus it would be in your back yard so to speak.



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i think sully is right on the 7 or8 legs lads its all easy for lads not involved in running clubs to talk about it but the problem is getting clubs to hold it is hard enough with four legs and you can not run a leg of the munsters with a club competition (think its against the rules?)things need to change tho, this years spred of competitions is the best it has been since four legs started. jan ,april ,may,sept even tho it prob be better 1st jan-march 2nd apr-jun 3rd jul-sept 4thoct-dec .one held within each of these time frames?

barry i think a leauge basis would work you could have 6 legs drop 2 the cost of the comps at the moment is way over the top euro 20 entry 10 pool 5 levy for team thats 35 euro and for what is given out in prizes at the moment in all honesty it does not justify the cost i personally think drop the cost of the comps to try and get lads back on the shore /fish suitable venues to time of year and suitable tides nobody wants to be heavy hauling in midst of a gale .paudie

well paudie i totally agree with changes and fishing beaches in unsuitable conductions is no fun.
but i know at all the legs we held all prizes are of good value 3rd place been around twice the entrie fee and can only do that with part sponsorship witch we are lucky to get these days .i think tramore waterford could of ran there leg at a loss(dogfish could comferm).many clubs are struggling at the moment and running a competition at aloss could break them.so cant see how dropping the prize money will help clubs,some clubs make alot and give bad prizes???dont know what can be done???
would 6 clubs take the competitions?its hard to get 4 cant even get clubs to take the 4 legs of the juv munsters philp and john run one there selfs.
the thing with cards didnt help this year with alot of clubs not starting till march/april people had not got 2009 cards in jan.

all sorted we hope