Buying a boat

Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:59 am

Thinking about buying a small boat with a few mates

Was wondering how much it costs to maintain a boat per year

And whats involved work wise ??

Re: Buying a boat

Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:45 pm

everyone has there own experiences with boat and there troubles they can be a real mine field,soft floors and rotted timbers especially second hand outboards so be aware .if it sounds too good to be true it usually is.buy from a good dealer or someone you know.but when all goes to plan there nothing like having having your own boat they can cost a few bob here and there,some say they are like a hole in the ocean ,money pit but you have to start somewhere.best of luck

Re: Buying a boat

Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:58 pm

Buy a kayak. I have mine fitted with hd camcorder, fish finder and gps. A lot cheaper the a boat and easier to maintain . I've even seen them fitted with motors

Re: Buying a boat

Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:00 am

Engine will need a service every year cost €200 to €400.
Antifoul will need touching up so a bit of work to clean off any dirt and touch up or totally redo
cost not sure but google will always help. :D
In winter time when you cant get out is a handy time to clean boat well and check all fittings for wear and repair or replace any items.
Insurance will depend on boat get a few quotes for the type of boat you intend buying.
If you need to store boat somewhere other than outside your house this could be a marina cost or mooring cost.
You will find when you buy that you will think of all sorts you want e.g. rod holders, bait table etc etc. :D :D
Of course this is our sport and lots of people spend lots of money on what they enjoy doing.
It's a great time to buy to get a bargain so go ahead and enjoy.

Yappo

Re: Buying a boat

Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:16 am

Not trying to be smart but it depends on the size of the boat and kit ...

If you don't have your own over-wintering storage its expensive near a city but any friendly farmer will rent you a barn or space for little or nothing (or as I did for the odd bucket of mackerel). Just check on the security for it. Ideally you want to keep it indoors during the winter, or at the very least with a full cover over it. And it needs to be very secure.

Engine servicing can be expensive, but it depends on the size of the engine! If you are only doing inshore dinghy fishing, you are looking at < 10 hp and a four stroke engine here would be economical and easy to maintain. Having a big 55 gallon drum full of fresh water to flush out the salt water and a few other bits and pieces would save you a lot of money in the long term. If you are buying a bigger boat and engine for offshore fishing, that's a whole different ball game...

If you have not gone boat fishing before in your own boat, start with a 14-16 footer and trade up later, if you want to...

Trailer - if you are buying second hand, get this checked out carefully. Pay attention to the axles, electronic hook up for the lights and reg plate, winch and also the strapping. Check the tyre type and repair issues. For example if you suffer a flat on a two wheel trailer, do you have a spare / jack etc. This can often be the nasty hidden extra in buying a boat.

The anti-fouling is for bigger boats and I would not worry about it - most fibreglass hulls are smooth enough to resist it and unless you leave it at anchor during the summer, you will not get much of a build up of crud on the hull.

You may find yourself stuck with a lot of small bills - stupid but important stuff like an anchor, drogue, auxiliary engine, oars (!), life jackets, flares and 1st aid kit, VHF radio (essential) and an EPIRB. Admiralty charts or their online equivalent are not cheap but very useful in terms of locating good marks, wrecks etc, but none of this comes cheap.

If I recall Jim Clohessy did an excellent series of articles in the Irish Angler about maintaining a boat, and it would be a good read to give you an appreciation for all the work that is involved. If you are buying it with your mates, be clear on how the work will be equally divided. If its staying in your garage, chances are you will get lumped with all of the maintenance!!!

I kept a 14 foot OSM Darragh with a cuddy in the east coast for a few years but never got to use it enough to justify the costs. This really is the key - will you use it enough? If you are pitching in an equal share, will you get equal use?

Hope this helps

Re: Buying a boat

Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:40 pm

Thanks for the help lads.

We are looking a 2nd hand 16 to 18 foot boat with a outboard motor.

have a budget of around 4k, fingers crossed we come across a bargin :D

Re: Buying a boat

Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:01 pm

I have an Orkney strikeliner and its stored close to Celbridge if you want to come take a look some evening.

They are good angling boats and should suit your needs, I can let you know the pitfalls and costs we have had etc.

You should be able to pick one up for around 4K.

PM me if you like and you can come and take a look some evening.

Re: Buying a boat

Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:30 pm

my advice try buy it on your own.i have seen many a friendship strain over boats.it starts with great intentions until one of the following happen s .boat needs money every year for maintanence and insurance. if you have say 4 lads involved it can happen at a bad time for one of them then your asked to buy him out .maybe one of the others might want to bring guests out on a day you want to bring guests who gets the boat?iv seen brothers dont mind friends fall out over this.my own boat costs are as following mooring fees 300 per year.winter and trailer storage 400 per year. insurance costs me 200 .engine service is 200 to 300 depending on whats been done.paint and anti foul 150 euro plus i do the labour.the bearings on the trailer has cost me 400 euros this year.the beauty of been skipper and owner is i decide who i want on board i decide when to go out and when to come back.there are too many pitfalls to part ownership in my eyes try do it on your own .i would also recommend a 16 -18ft i got a 21ft its just that little bit too big for launch and retrive.thats why its on a mooring[which are like chickens teeth in dublin] and its too big for storing at my house so its kept in a storage yard

Re: Buying a boat

Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:56 pm

chenz116 wrote:Thanks for the help lads.

We are looking a 2nd hand 16 to 18 foot boat with a outboard motor.

have a budget of around 4k, fingers crossed we come across a bargin :D


This is still available and the engine is near new with very little use :wink: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=39883&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Re: Buying a boat

Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:36 pm

thats a fine looking boat for the money john. and has to be well worth a look with yourself knowing the boat

Re: Buying a boat

Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:37 am

My tip here to you is ,that when you've bought your boat, buy the engine's service manual from Outboardbooks.com and you'll will be able to troubleshoot and fix just about any problem that arises without having to pay for a mechanic.
I find mine invaluable.

Re: Buying a boat

Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:07 am

With 4k to play with, either buy the boat/engine/trailer for 3k and keep the last 1k to play with, or buy for 4k and have another 1k ready for extras.

You will be surprised at how much modding you'll want to do.

Re: Buying a boat

Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:14 am

yea sorry thats what the plan is 3k for the boat and then another 1k for the rest.

Re: Buying a boat

Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:16 pm

http://www.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/boats/3695630


very cheap clean orkney strikeliner