recommendations for a lefty

Hi Guys

Looking for a bit of advice
My young nephew has started fishing this year with me and is enjoying it
I took him on the last boat trip of the year with the culdaff club and he has got the bug for the boat as well as the shore fishing
Now my question...He wants a boat rod and multi so he can get into the boat fishing next year.I have loads of stuff but he is left handed and can't handle a multi right handed,so what sort of multi's are available L/H and not breaking the bank either.
I know he has asked his mum for a boat rod and reel from santy and I know she will come to me and ask me to get it for him.
so answers on a post card left hand multi with level wind and perhaps a rod to match

Cathal

You will probably have to look to an ABU for a decent sized "lefty". The 6500 in left is a 6501 and the 7000 is a 7001 either reels would be lovely. Other than that many smaller baitcasters would be available as lefties but probably wouldn't put up with the abuse.

On the boat rod - get an entry level 6-12 rod in around eight feet - lovely for a lad starting out. Paired with a 6501 or a 7001, loaded with braid, would be a nice package. If Santy was feeling generous a Daiwa Kensaki 6-12 would be nice.
Ho Ho Ho !

i think 6-12 lb class is way too light if he is going to be charter fishing,
to avoid tangles and get to the bottom quickly
he will need to use a reasonably heavy lead and the little
rod will be bent double. i would go 20-30lb. also a light rod is poor
for setting hooks as it will bend too easily

akuna used to do a lot of reasonalby priced reels left hand and right handed

Can't be of any help with the reel I'm afraid but rod wise a Penn Powerstix Pro is a great little rod for the money, I got one for a little under €70 and couldn't fault it.

Hi Guys

Looking for a bit of advice
My young nephew has started fishing this year with me and is enjoying it
I took him on the last boat trip of the year with the culdaff club and he has got the bug for the boat as well as the shore fishing
Now my question...He wants a boat rod and multi so he can get into the boat fishing next year.I have loads of stuff but he is left handed and can't handle a multi right handed,so what sort of multi's are available L/H and not breaking the bank either.
I know he has asked his mum for a boat rod and reel from santy and I know she will come to me and ask me to get it for him.
so answers on a post card left hand multi with level wind and perhaps a rod to match

Cathal

Dont know about the Reel Cathal, but in terms of the Rod, will you be taking him on the wreck trips at the start of the season? That is the heaviest fishing we do, and for those two or three trips alone, he will need a heavier class rod.
But for all the rest of the season I'd highly recomend the Grauvell Anaga, I have the 2.85m which might be a bit too long for him, but they do come smaller lengths.
If it was me I'd be getting him the Anaga, and just get a loan of a stronger rod for those wreck trips, I have a few old crow-bar's lying out in the shed that he'd be welcome to

Cheers
Paddy

Thanks guys

Paddy I have a few old crow bars myself that he could use on the wreck trips
Might have a wee look at that Grauvell for myself
It's more a reel with left hand wind we can get buy with rods
that abu 7001i looks ok anybody use it would it be heavy for a young lad to use all day

The 7001 is not a very heavy reel. The 6501 would be nicer me thinks, especially mated to a nice rod.
Keep an eye out for offers on the grauvells. I got an ETNA 300 in Wales for £30-00 recently (normally £80-00)!

jim

what weight of lead are you thinking of with a 6-12lb class rod?

john

jim

what weight of lead are you thinking of with a 6-12lb class rod?

john

John,

I use up to 8oz drifting, using either: Kensaki 6-12, Tidecutter 6-12 or Etna 270.

Jim

would you not find if you wanted to move the lead up suddenly, say to strike
a bait robbing wrasse or rise from a snaggy bottom then the light rod just
bends instead of lifting the comparatively heavy lead?

i would not regard the kensaki 20-30lb as a cast iron crow bar, its marginally
heavier than the lighter models, nor do i think a very heavy rod is
needed or suitable for wreck fishing.

i think if the chap gets a rod in the middle of the range rather
than the lightest model it would be more versatile and could be used for
bigger pollack, ling conger etc, even could work for sharks

I've used the Anaga for fish up to 10lbs and this was on the lighter green tip. If the young lad was to start with the heavier red tip, then move to the green as he got that bit more experience then this would be ideal..... The rod would be bent double for 8-10lb fish, but it will handle it. You can use up to 10oz of lead with the red tip and 8 with the green.. The nice thing about these quiver tips is that you feel everything and it really adds to the the experience, especially with the smaller fish.. I have fished the above with an Abu 6500 and it is a very light set-up.....

A nice cheap backup heavier rod would be the Leeda Northstar 12-20lb.... Lovely blank, but the eyes need rinsing often... These should be available for €50 For heavier wrecking he can borrow one of those crowbars

As for the lefty thing..... I'd be inclined to leave it alone. It is only in sea fishing that we tend to reel with our strongest arm.... when lure or coarse fishing the opposite is the norm.... you nephew will simply be holding the rod with his stronger arm and reeling with his right. IMO this is better, especially for trying to control bigger fish. Either way, he won't be long getting used to it, especially if he's done any lure or coarse fishing...

Kev

Dylans dad phoned me a while ago he wanted to know where the tackle shops are
I told him I would take him but he said he would be ok
I bet he lands back with a 50 lb class rod and a right hand wind reel

I've used the Anaga for fish up to 10lbs and this was on the lighter green tip. If the young lad was to start with the heavier red tip, then move to the green as he got that bit more experience then this would be ideal..... The rod would be bent double for 8-10lb fish, but it will handle it. You can use up to 10oz of lead with the red tip and 8 with the green.. The nice thing about these quiver tips is that you feel everything and it really adds to the the experience, especially with the smaller fish.. I have fished the above with an Abu 6500 and it is a very light set-up.....

A nice cheap backup heavier rod would be the Leeda Northstar 12-20lb.... Lovely blank, but the eyes need rinsing often... These should be available for €50 For heavier wrecking he can borrow one of those crowbars

As for the lefty thing..... I'd be inclined to leave it alone. It is only in sea fishing that we tend to reel with our strongest arm.... when lure or coarse fishing the opposite is the norm.... you nephew will simply be holding the rod with his stronger arm and reeling with his right. IMO this is better, especially for trying to control bigger fish. Either way, he won't be long getting used to it, especially if he's done any lure or coarse fishing...

Kev

Thats basically what I said above Mac, but you just put it better

I use the Anaga for most of my fishing, drifting over sand, gilling for Pollack etc but I dont like using lead over 8oz on that set-up, once I have to go over 8oz I use my Daiwa TDXU 4-10oz.
On the wrecks I use a 20lb-30lb Kenzaki, we normally use leads from 8oz up to around 12oz, I just find that the takes by the fish over the wrecks are so strong that you have no need for the quiver tips, and the extra length just becomes a hinderence rather than a help.

JW thats a good point about the quiver tip bending when wrasse fishing, and for that very reason I bought a Grauvell Kona 11ft spinning rod, of Dan Lynch back at the end of Aug. It has the length to allow you to flick a good distance away from the boat, but is strong enough to allow for better hook setting when wrasse fishing. I used it on our last club trip and landed 16 wrasse in about an hour, it really did the trick!

Go for an Anaga with a FS. Problem solved. A decent quivertip is a much more effective route anyhow and the Anaga is a great starting point. it will cover the vast majority of what swims in our seas. There is no such thing as a one stop shop for all manner of fishing. If hes going after monsters he will need to tackle accordingly. For general fishing, clean, rough, it will tick the boxes for you and is a quality bit of gear.

The match scene tells us a lot more sometimes than its given credit for, anglers must keep fishing for as long as possible and hook as much as possible. Re the point about lifting into and away from fish and snags, I dont buy that JW, sorry. Not having a go at anyone but if they are arent as good at setting hooks into match bread and butter fish such as wrasse and are more prone to snagging, why on earth are all the top match anglers using them anmd not going for a poker or a spinning rod? With practise, the sensitivity offered by a quivertip tells you so much more as to whats going on at the bottom than say a standard boat rod. A quivertip only really bends at the tip with a steely backbone. Realistically, using a quivertip correctly, when you lift up into any resistance, be it fish or snag, the tip might bend down by a foot to 18 inches at the most. Spinning rods and light boat rods primarily have a through action. A spinning rod is grand for flicking an ounce or two away. Stick 8-10 ozs on a spinning rod and see how well it casts compared to a rod made for that purpose...... There are a multitude of these rods on the market at varying prices and sizes. I can recommend, from experience, the Abu Premium Multi Tip, Fladen Maxximus super sensor, Grauvell Anaga and Tubertini Gorilla AP 350 and AP 400. All are made primarily for use with a FS reel, all are boat rods, suitable for their purpose. All will handle the vast majority of fish that the young fella is likely to catch. FWIW.

Have had conger up to 45lb out of Weymouth on the Anaga with the heavy tip. Have one that I use regularly and three others stored in the loft for when I break that one

pete, i did not say anything about quiver tip rods, the original suggestion was
a kensaki 6-12lb braid rod for somebody to start with, i do own one of these
rods and I find that it is too light for the wrasse fishing i do. i suppose it
depends on whether the kid wants to specialise in competition fishing under
the present format or wants to do conventional/big fish boat angling

Apologies JW, one of the rods listed by Jim that you were responding to, the Etna 270 is a quivertip style rod. What rod have you got thats too light for Wrasse fishing BTW, Im not poking at you, I'm interested? When initially using one of this style rod its easy to feel undergunned until you really give one of them some stick and see just what they can handle.

Its got nothing to do with match angling or "conventional" angling. I do a lot of match angling and a lot of pleasure angling as you know, I straddle both sides of the fence as it were. I near solely use quivertip set ups or a Daiwa TDXU 2-8oz and I manage to get my fair share of decent sized fish. Treble shots of 6-7lbers on the gill, Conger to 40lb, shark to 70lbs, Monk to 70+....etc etc Of course, I dont solely target monsters, if I did, I would certainly beef up the gear a bit but for occasional bonus fish, it will indeed suffice. IMO, the Anaga set up is not a great match outfit and its not just a great "conventional" outfit. Its simply a great outfit. I dont use mine anymore, Im using ap350s and ap400s along with the TDXU and the Abu Premium multi tip but when I did it had no issue with bonus bigger fish. It is as I said a great starting point, Its fairly short, its light with plenty of backbone and with a FS reel is dead easy to handle for a young lad.

edit.. Sorry JW just saw it was the Kenzaki you were referring to....

a kensaki 6-12lb braid rod for somebody to start with, i do own one of these rods and I find that it is too light for the wrasse fishing i do

Never found that to be the case myself.

The FS option never came to mind Pete.... not sure why Probable coz I use multiplier, but the FS option would be great and takes all the lefty talk out of the equation.

Kev