BEWARE

Sat May 01, 2010 9:57 pm

THIS WAS POSTED ON POWERBOAT.IE....... BEWARE!!!!
Hey all,
Just heard from a cop buddy of mine that a new Clampdown in our highly policed state is being widely enforced.

The law are cracking down majorly on towing anything for leisure (Boats/Jet Ski's/Motor bikes/Rally Cars Etc) with a Commercially taxed Van or Jeep.

He also told me that a Rib and Jeep (commercial type) were both impounded recently in Cork for this offence and weren't released until the Jeep was taxed privately. (Apparently this happened on a Saturday and the owner couldn't get his jeep taxed until the following Tuesday) When he went to collect both, he was charged €130 a night for storage of the Car & Boat...

Nasty stealth way of collecting more monies

Re: BEWARE

Sun May 02, 2010 9:19 am

:shock: :shock: :shock:

But I wonder was that a 2-seater van type jeep or a full-seated and windowed 4X4? I see a quite a few of the latter around with commercial tax and always wondered how they get away with it.

Re: BEWARE

Sun May 02, 2010 10:18 am

Hugo wrote::shock: :shock: :shock:

But I wonder was that a 2-seater van type jeep or a full-seated and windowed 4X4? I see a quite a few of the latter around with commercial tax and always wondered how they get away with it.

it was a loop-hole, for a few years you could drive/tax as commercial but bring the kids fully insured in the back, McCreevy closed the loop-hole a few years back

Re: BEWARE

Sun May 02, 2010 2:06 pm

so what is the law, are you not allowed to use the van unless for work?

Re: BEWARE

Sun May 02, 2010 7:39 pm

Apparently in the budget they changed the laws relating to commercial insurance, now you are not allowed to have a commercially insured and taxed 4x4/jeep/crewcab etc unless you also have a vat number, thus indicating that you are a business and qualify for commercial tax etc.
You are not supposed to use a comercially taxed vehicle for private use, or conversly use a private vehicle for commercial work.
To throw another few spanners into the works, you may not tow a double axled trailer legally on Irish roads without using a 4 wheeled vehicle, and if the weight of the trailer you are towing is over 750kg it must be a braked trailer, and you must also hold at least a cat. EB1 license your normal driving license will not cover you.
All these will be enforced from a revenue gathering point of view more and more in the future......

Re: BEWARE

Mon May 03, 2010 9:32 am

Wonder if any of the small farmers know about this? Loads of them round me using old jeeps for everything.

Re: BEWARE

Wed May 26, 2010 8:11 pm

So what can you tow with your normal, common or garden driving licence then? Is there a weight or size restriction?

Re: BEWARE

Wed May 26, 2010 8:43 pm

You can only pull a trailer with a designed max of 750 kg,
if you are pulling a trailer rated higher but empty you are
outside the law, the 4 wheel drive rule would proberly not stand
up in court as most 4 wheel drives are 2 wheel drives in normal
driving mode :wink:

Re: BEWARE

Wed May 26, 2010 11:15 pm

The subject of towing and licencing was covered here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21533&hilit=towing

Re: BEWARE

Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:25 pm

Dave Jolly, you've got a PM

Re: BEWARE

Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:20 am

hi, a friend of mine, managed after many days and frustration to get the lowdown off the revenue, he was told in writing , that it effects the crewcabs only as they are 5 seaters, hence passenger, but with the trouble he had ( including using local TD to get answers) its hardly suprising there is confusion out there.
regards
screeming

Re: BEWARE

Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:02 am

Hi lads
Very good post this especialy the links !!! thanks
Quick question ( s ) for a self built trailer it wont have the plates as fitted by manufacturers,, what then?? weigh it then make your own :?: :?: next what is the max overhang allowed from end of trailer. :P :P Any ideas.
Looks like we all need to double check our rigs to stay safe
Cheers
George M