What gear required for a charter trip

Hi lads,

Have only been out on charters a couple of times & each time I hired tackle on the boat which wasn't the best..

I want to get some decent fishing in next year so intend on kitting myself out properly with boat fishing gear at the fishing show in Swords early next year.

So I'm looking for some recommendations as to what I should get to cover me for general charter trips such as the ones that occassionaly appear here
on the site with available seats.
Ideally tackle would be at home gilling for pollock or fishing for conger & tope - too much to expect from one outfit?

This is what I think I need:

- Rod: Ideally a two piece rod so its easy to store & transport - any recommendations on class, length, make/model?

- Multiplier: Do I REALLY need a multiplier or could I use the big lump of a diawa regal that I have? If a multiplier is highly recommended any particular make/model/size?

- Line: Braid or Mono? Strength? Flouro for hooklengths? Recommendations on Brand?

- Terminal tackle:
I know this is something that is hard to recommend on as we all like different gear & like to hoard!
- I have plenty of red gills, hokkais & sabikis.
- I have plenty of beads & bits like that.
- What range of weights for general use?
- What range of hook sizes for general use?
- I don't have any shads/pirks etc. are they worth picking up at this point?
- Anything else I need?

Re: Budget, I'm no millionaire but I'm willing to spend a few quid to get the right gear. I'm thinking 500 quid (ish) to get me set up?

Thanks in advance,
Patrick.

Interesting post.

I'm going to think about it before I answer, cos I don't have much time right now that the question deserves.

Laters.......

Interesting post.

I'm going to think about it before I answer, cos I don't have much time right now that the question deserves.

Laters.......

I think you better put another log on the fire, this could be a long thread :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tom.

Cheers guys - looking forward to your responses

Hi 2Poc

Rod wise you could try abu suverans or penn powerstick. I know a lot of boat anglers use the abu's and cant fault them.

Powersticks are the cheaper alternative still a good rod with a nice tip although the eyes are suspect.

Both theses makes in the 12-20 or 20-30lb class would suit.

Multpliers, have a look at penn the 310gti or 320ld both very capable reels.

I fish with braid after years on mono, it does have its advantages no stretch, cuts the water better and you can feel every little knock, hasnt let me down yet. I have reels loaded with penn tidecutter and cortland braid.

Any of the mail order companies will have good rod and reel combo deals on these makes.

As for weights you'd be better buying a mould or two saves a lot of money in the long run.

If you have any pennys left over a bib and brace and waterproof jacket wouldnt go a miss.

Thanks for these Alastairswilson,

Re: Multiplier - would you strongly advise against a fixed spool?

Re: The Class of rod - 12/20 or 20/30 would the 12/20 be sufficient or would the 20/30 class be a better all rounder? I've not used both class rods to know the difference to be honest but I wouldn't want something like a broomstick if I can get away with it

Cheers,
Patrick

Most people tend to use the multiplier when boat fishing makes life a lot easier,

The 20-30 would be a good all rounder it would cover all of your types of fishing, its the one class of rod i seem to use the most,the abu's and penns in this class are exceptionally light but still got the power when you need it.

Take a good look round the shops 2Poc get a feel for the gear, see what catches your eye.

Hi 2poc,

Great question. In my view the biggest mistake newcomers make is
buying tackle way too heavy. A lot of tackle shop owners stock
unsuitable gear. If you are going to try for the irish record blue
shark, and want to be sure of landing it, go for 30lb class gear,
otherwise I would get a penn 525 and put 100 meters of 30lb power pro
braid on it and combine it with any 12 to 20lb class rod. That would
land every fish i've seen caught this year.

typically, about 8oz of lead is about right for most drifting over
reefs etc. If you think you might be seasick, get some tablets from a
chemist. A pirk is useful for conger fishing, shads are excellent for
bigger pollack etc, but will reduce the amount of small stuff you pick
up.

Cheers guys, lots of good info so far thanks.

So I'm looking at:

- 12/20 class rod - I'll check out the penns and abus
- Penn multiplier - Question - should I get one with a level wind bearing in mind I'm not a regular user of a multiplier?
- 30lb Braid
- Good waterproofs & bib & brace
- I actually found I have some dodgy pirks from lidl :?
- I already have a life jacket
- I'll pick up a selection of hooks weights with some around the 8oz mark.

Anything else that would be worth picking up?
I.e. if I showed up at one of the SAI charter trips with the above would I be covered?

Thanks again,
Patrick.

hi patrick,

Basically any 6000 or 7000 sized multiplier will do. One other thing that might be useful is some 12 inch wire booms to attach jelly worms or shads on a long flowing trace.

Some areas like Kilmore Quay can be fairly snaggy, so a few paper clips as rotten bottoms can save a bit of tackle. Six inches of wood from a brush handle can be useful to wrap the braid around if you get stuck

why not go for something like an uptider, ok i know you are only starting off but a 9ft 6 rod in the range of a daiwa tdxu 2-8 is powerful enough to take a specimen tope in a strong tide or land a specimen conger in deep water and yet is sensitive enough to detect the smallest of rattles, or even tell when you line is rubbing someone elses.

dont buy anything too cheap cos youll wind up relacing it after not too long.

make sure that any braid is round not flat and that it has a thin diameter (not all do) as suggested earlier on the powerpro or whiplash are ideal

as for hooks i generally use 1/0 or 2/0 kamasan for gilling and the like but switch something like a 4/0 for ray, huss, dogs etc cos of the bigger baits

next time your out ask a few lads if you can try out what they have and see if you like it. and if you can get someone that knows what he is doing to go shopping with you cos it will prevent the tackle dealer from taking advantage

only the humble ramblings of a mad man but i hope it helps

Lots of great info once again lads - I'll add some booms to my list too.

More questions for you of course ;)

I hadn't considered an uptider - what would the advantages be over a standard 12/20 boat rod?

Should I buy a butt pad?

Should I get a multi with a level wind or avoid level winds?

What to people usually use for their snoods - is it braid straight through or would people use mono/flouro snoods? If so what strength?

Would I generally need to bring grip leads?


Thanks again,
Patrick.

what would the advantages be over a standard 12/20 boat rod? for one the rod is longer, reducing the number of tangles you will get with other anglers on a boat, second is they are generally lighter and more sensitive while having roughly the same power

Should I buy a butt pad? never used one and anyone i have asked has said not to bother unless you are after massive fish

Should I get a multi with a level wind or avoid level winds? personally i prefer level winds on a boat reel unless you plan on casting, where you will need an uptider

What to people usually use for their snoods - is it braid straight through or would people use mono/flouro snoods? If so what strength? if you are using braid main line you def need to use either mono or flouro for your snoods. i use flouro in either 20, 25 or 30 unless im after animal species where i will use mono of between 50 and 100lbs

Would I generally need to bring grip leads? never seen them on a boat, only reason i can think of is for uptiding


Thanks again,
Patrick.[/quote]

Thanks again guys

Hi
look at a penn wave blaster combo with a 320gti put a extra £10 in and you could change to a 320ld it comes with mono and braid not the cheepest but for around £220 its a good buy and a verry good rod yoyu can get them in a 4 section that is just as good as a two peice one ill be treating myself to one soon

Hi
look at a penn wave blaster combo with a 320gti put a extra £10 in and you could change to a 320ld it comes with mono and braid not the cheepest but for around £220 its a good buy and a verry good rod yoyu can get them in a 4 section that is just as good as a two peice one ill be treating myself to one soon

Will do - thanks!

HI did you get chance to have a look at them

HI did you get chance to have a look at them

Sorry - just seeing this now! Haven't had a look yet. I'm going to have a look at the fishing show in Feb & if I can't find anything then I'll start looking online. It'll be summer before I get out fishing anyway so no hurry.

Cheers,
Patrick.