uptiders

whats best lads rod wise, dont worry about reels have one or two, but would use a slosh with it, so what rod? thanks

for general fishing, you cant go wrong with the diawa tdxu 2-8 oz or the conoflex integra

i have the conoflex integra best uptider bar none i would highly recommend it to any one

It has to be the conoflex from dabs to big tope its a great all rounder

I've a Penn uptider, 2 - 8 oz. It's done everything I've ever asked of it.

Shakespear Uglystick uptider should be worth a second look. I've had friends swear by their Daiwa rods. Forget which model, might have been carbowhisker.......

Best thing is to start cheap and work your way up....... That way you don't waste too much money on an unsuitable rod, and get to but loads of rods too! :D

Use an abu suveran and the daiwa tdx, hard to choose between either although for lighter stuff the tdx has a much more sensitive tip. Makes a nice downtide rod too, even if the butt section is a bit on the longside. Found the suveran was perfect for tope and bigger rays.

Both are a bit expensive Martin and as Tanglerat says it might be best to go for something not as dear for your first unless your planning to do a lot of uptiding.

What is the difference between the conoflex integra and the vampire 11 uptiders

Are all uptiders a tippy action

uptiders are supposed to have a tippy action because they need to. Weights are anchored in the sea bed and would pull loose with the motion of the boat if they were too stiff. Uptiders are cumbersome and awkward. I would not recomend one unless you have a true need for one. Of all uptiders bought i would imagine very few are actually used i the right conditions. I say this because the whole idea of an uptider is that you do not miss bites because the fish hook themselves. This only works in very strong tide runs in shallow water. If the water is too deep the lead will be swept down tide before it has a chance to bed in. The fish will hook themselves as they grab the bait in the strong tide run.

As far as i am aware Uptiding stared in the Solent in the South of the UK where the shallow tides run very hard. The same conditions only exist in a few places around our coast so unless you fish in those i would not bother with an uptide rod. Two locations with these conditions would be the Shannon estuary and off Cahore in Co. wexford. The water is both shallow and VERY strong here and is ideal for uptiding. I fish Cahore a fair bit and so use an ABU Suveran uptider. It also doubles well as my second rod for bigger fish and Tope. Most of my fishing is done with an 8lb class Daiwa Vulcan X rod. As i said, I use the uptider because i have a genuine use for it. If you don't get a normal rod as its weight and size can be annoying, especially on a small boat not to mention a charter full of angry anglers. Many Charter skippers will not let you cast from their boats anyway. I would recomend fishing with an 8lb class rod unless you often fish deep water over 150 ft. You would be surprised what they are capable of landing (Tope included) and are a much more enjoyable rod to fish with. :wink:

uptiders are supposed to have a tippy action because they need to. Weights are anchored in the sea bed and would pull loose with the motion of the boat if they were too stiff. Uptiders are cumbersome and awkward. I would not recomend one unless you have a true need for one. Of all uptiders bought i would imagine very few are actually used i the right conditions. I say this because the whole idea of an uptider is that you do not miss bites because the fish hook themselves. This only works in very strong tide runs in shallow water. If the water is too deep the lead will be swept down tide before it has a chance to bed in. The fish will hook themselves as they grab the bait in the strong tide run.

As far as i am aware Uptiding stared in the Solent in the South of the UK where the shallow tides run very hard. The same conditions only exist in a few places around our coast so unless you fish in those i would not bother with an uptide rod. Two locations with these conditions would be the Shannon estuary and off Cahore in Co. wexford. The water is both shallow and VERY strong here and is ideal for uptiding. I fish Cahore a fair bit and so use an ABU Suveran uptider. It also doubles well as my second rod for bigger fish and Tope. Most of my fishing is done with an 8lb class Daiwa Vulcan X rod. As i said, I use the uptider because i have a genuine use for it. If you don't get a normal rod as its weight and size can be annoying, especially on a small boat not to mention a charter full of angry anglers. Many Charter skippers will not let you cast from their boats anyway. I would recomend fishing with an 8lb class rod unless you often fish deep water over 150 ft. You would be surprised what they are capable of landing (Tope included) and are a much more enjoyable rod to fish with. :wink:

uptiders are supposed to have a tippy action because they need to. Weights are anchored in the sea bed and would pull loose with the motion of the boat if they were too stiff. Uptiders are cumbersome and awkward. I would not recomend one unless you have a true need for one. Of all uptiders bought i would imagine very few are actually used i the right conditions. I say this because the whole idea of an uptider is that you do not miss bites because the fish hook themselves. This only works in very strong tide runs in shallow water. If the water is too deep the lead will be swept down tide before it has a chance to bed in. The fish will hook themselves as they grab the bait in the strong tide run.

As far as i am aware Uptiding stared in the Solent in the South of the UK where the shallow tides run very hard. The same conditions only exist in a few places around our coast so unless you fish in those i would not bother with an uptide rod. Two locations with these conditions would be the Shannon estuary and off Cahore in Co. wexford. The water is both shallow and VERY strong here and is ideal for uptiding. I fish Cahore a fair bit and so use an ABU Suveran uptider. It also doubles well as my second rod for bigger fish and Tope. Most of my fishing is done with an 8lb class Daiwa Vulcan X rod. As i said, I use the uptider because i have a genuine use for it. If you don't get a normal rod as its weight and size can be annoying, especially on a small boat not to mention a charter full of angry anglers. Many Charter skippers will not let you cast from their boats anyway. I would recomend fishing with an 8lb class rod unless you often fish deep water over 150 ft. You would be surprised what they are capable of landing (Tope included) and are a much more enjoyable rod to fish with. :wink:

I agree with everything your saying regarding uptide rods, one guy who was one of the first to develop uptide fishing was Nigel Forrest (owner of BreakAway) and the main concern was a short enough distance between the reel and the Butt Cap, purely for casting and reeling in.....it was common sense to have a softer tip on such a rod, for the reasons stated.

The other theory going around at the time was, fish could be boat shy, hence casting away from the boat......the jury is out 50/50 on that one as some Big Game skippers recon attacking game fish mistake the shadow of the boat for the bait ball.

I have a couple of uptide rods......for the use I put them to, they should be called rock-end rods :oops: :wink:

Tom.

What is the difference between the conoflex integra and the vampire 11 uptiders

ANYONE KNOW

Sorry M666ARK i have no idea. I know nothing about these rods. Perhaps some of the tackle tarts on this site might be able to help. I tend to get rods that work well for me and stick to them. Buying too many rods is just silly really, particularly for boat fishing as you can only use a couple at a time without them cluttering up the place. You should really have two rods that cover everything you do if you can. I have 4 rods for boat fishing but only ever really bring out 2. I have a 20/30 that hardly ever gets used and a 12lb class but the butt is dodgy and so rarely gets an outing now as my uptider doubles as my 'bigger stuff' rod.

As far as those rods go and Uptiders in general all the advice i can give you is that the ABU Suveran is a very nice rod. I'm saying that because i use one. Its the only uptider i have used so keep that in context. Its one major feature is that it has a retractable buut section that is screwed out for casting and twisted back in for fishing. Even with this feature the rod is BIG. Personally i marvel at how people use other uptiders without this feature? As i said, i would recomend this rod. I have the 6-10 oz version but looking back i would now have went for the lighter version. I have heard many other anglers saying they also use this rod on forums who also think it is very good. Wether they have used other uptiders i don't know?
Sorry, can't be any more help than that.