Commercials getting more organised

4 groups joined together in one voice now

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/p111.htm

Pity Sea Anglers couldnt do the same :roll:

Andy Elliott

thats exactly what i was thinking when i saw this

John Browne T.D., Minister of State at the Department of Communications, Marine & Natural Resources, today welcomed the news that the country's four main fishermen's representative groups are to unify under the banner of the new Federation of Irish Fishermen (FIF).

Commenting on the announcement Minister Browne stressed the importance of the new organisation "I have always consistently urged fishermen that their interests would be best served by speaking with one unified voice for the industry. This unity will help them not only in dealings with the Irish Government but perhaps more importantly when it comes to dealing with the myriad of issues that arise at a European level on fisheries." "

PITY SEA ANGLERS CANT DO SAME -read on


I intend to work closely with the new federation in the coming weeks as we approach the publication of the Government's strategy review of the seafood industry and as we prepare for the December European Council meeting on fisheries. Finally I would like to wish Lorcán Ó Cinnéide, the chair of the new federation, the best of luck in his new role and I am sure that he will continue to strive to do his utmost to represent Irish fishermen at home and abroad," concluded Minister Browne.

SACN to me seems like the best voice for all angling conservation /action groups to speak under....

just wish that more anglers and clubs would take notice and start to do something about it all

5 days after being formed and they are already requesting a meeting with the Taoiseach

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/1128/fishing.html?rss

Now if sea anglers could do the same ... like the freshwater boys did ...

Andy

...and fishermen felt the Government had removed everything that was 'good' about their industry...

Like the fish, for example?

No, seriously....what exactly does 'good' mean? The right to catch all you want? Now, we all know fish stocks are well down, and by and large, set to decline further. As far as commercial fishermen are concerned, they want to be able to catch at least what scientists tell them is the 'maximum sustainable yield' - based on what the fishermen report they land, among other factors. And MSY is the basis that European fisheries are manged under. Beat the stocks down, then keep them there.

So having hammered most stocks into the ground, they're complaining that they aren't allowed to catch more. That's like having money in the bank, continually withdrawing all the interest, and then whinging that your capital isn't growing. Am I the only one who finds that concept laughable?

The commercial fishing industry as a whole has proven time and time again it cannot effectively regulate itself and fights tooth and nail to avoid external regulation.

The simple fact is, you cannot catch the fish and at the same time, expect them magically to reappear in the sea the next day. You cannot extract most or all the breeding fish from a population and expect it to grow. You cannot trash the environment and expect it to support the same wealth of biodiversity that it formerly did.

Commercial fishermen have now accepted that there may be other threats to fish stocks - such as global warming affecting range and recruitment and so on. In fact, these other factors now seem to have been added to the blame list, along with johnny foreigner, the CFP, evil politicians, ignorant scientists and the like.

However, they all fail to realise that regardless of what the threats are and what their effect is, fishing away as hard as you can isn't going to help.

Is that concept so difficult to understand?

What can we do to ensure that our fish stocks are not damaged and that legislation in place in not change? is there a unified body for fishermen who will voice its opinion on the matter of conservation????please let me know i would like my voice to be heard and get my 2 cents in before its to late

this may sound totally naive - but does the national board for sea fishing clubs not lobby the government for anything

or do they just see themselves as competition organisers

(leaving the whole membership issue to the side for a moment)

Corby

I've emailed the IFSA conservation officer on a number of occasions. asking what the IFSA does for conservation. No answer for 6 weeks. I then sent the same questions again, the answer " what club are you in " :roll:

I could go off on a big rant here, but im that disgusted with the reply i'd probably get banned for excessive use of the f word

Andy

does anyone know of any other countries which may have a organisation which would voice the opinion of anglers under one umbrella which could be implemented in ireland?

i cant beleive its this hard to find an organisation which will deal with the issue of sea life consersation it mad..

with an election coming up they will probably be very welcome in government buildings. It strikes me that now would be a time to to see if Irish anglers could get in on this act as well. Instead of blaming the local irish fishermen for losses in fish numbers could we not work with them and try to get a bigger limit on other fishing fleets in Irish waters? that way we would be working together at a time when the government might listen.


Maybe organise it with a british body because guess what party in the UK will be desperate for votes in the next election.

they would be a great idea but idont think the commericals would come together with anglers becaquse of the ban on drift net fishing but we need to do some thing

One of the many happy aspects of the CFP is that you cannot set one law for your own boats and another for johhny foreigner. It's be discriminatory.....

may be its time ireland dumped the eu