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rushnaldo wrote:Ireland has the largest area of sea marine area and some of the smallest share of quota in the e.u
DUTCH CLAIM VESSELS ARE ON RESEARCH PROJECT
It has been disclosed to The Skipper that the Dutch authorities have informed the SFPA that 3 pelagic freezer vessels that are currently or can be expected off the Irish coast soon are carrying out gear selectivity trials to reduce unwanted by-catch.
The Afrika SCH24, Carolien SCH 81 and Annelise Ilena KW174 are testing separation grids to reduce Hake and small Mackerel by catch when they are targeting Scad and Mackerel
No details of quota allocations have been given.
The trials have been authorised to commence in October 2015 and continue till April 2016.
JimC wrote:From The Skipper's Facebook Page:
If true, this is taking the mick.DUTCH CLAIM VESSELS ARE ON RESEARCH PROJECT
It has been disclosed to The Skipper that the Dutch authorities have informed the SFPA that 3 pelagic freezer vessels that are currently or can be expected off the Irish coast soon are carrying out gear selectivity trials to reduce unwanted by-catch.
The Afrika SCH24, Carolien SCH 81 and Annelise Ilena KW174 are testing separation grids to reduce Hake and small Mackerel by catch when they are targeting Scad and Mackerel
No details of quota allocations have been given.
The trials have been authorised to commence in October 2015 and continue till April 2016.
MARGIRIS UPDATE
Following enquiries to both the Lithuanian, EU and Irish fishing authorities the following info has been released to The Skipper by the SFPA.
The current Lithuanian Quota details available in Irish waters as of this morning from the EU FIDES system ( Fisheries Data Exchange System) ….
Horse Mackerel : ICES IIa, IVa, VI, VIIa-c, VIIe-k, VIIIa, VIIIb, VIIId, VIIIe, and EU waters of Vb, XII & XIV of which Lithuania has 1,868 Tonnes remaining from their original 2015 allocation of 5,953 tonnes in these sea areas.
This is the only remaining Pelagic quota available to Lithuania in the sea areas over which Ireland has direct jurisdiction as their 544 Tonne Mackerel allocation from all EU areas has already been landed for 2015.
JimC wrote::) It is quite ironic alright.
I tend to come at it from another angle though....
We are back to the age old argument and as you say it's largely from commercial interests:
I thought the Irony of seeing "Rachel Jay" complaining online about super trawlers was unreal. - That boat was some "super trawler" when it was pair trawling the estuary up to Waterford cleaning out inshore areas. Biggest trawler in that area for a long time.
It's all the foreigners fault - They must catch all the inshore fish when those said fish head outside 12 miles - That's why inshore stocks are goosed in many areas. Damn Spanish. Our lads are real conservationists.
It's all the foreigners fault - The bastards bought up Irish boats and Irish quota. Our lads didn't take the filthy lucre or sell to the highest bidder - Damn Foreigners paid them too much for our fish. Damn wealthy Spannies spending their EU grants like that
It's all the anglers fault! Assholes caught all the bass back in the '80's.... Nearly wiped them out so they did. Our lads are just honest lads doing a tough job.... Bass are recovering? It is only right that we should be allowed at them again.... Before the French get them outside the 12 mile limit. Damn Frogs!
It's all the EU's fault - Yep! w*nkers put quotas on us. But shur in Kilmore Quay and elsewhere we will ignore the quotas and do what we want. What would a W*nker in Brussels know about our fish over here? Mess size and square panels me hole -- the cod are everywhere! Damn EU!
It's the SFPA's fault - How dare they try and control us! How dare they and we only getting small subsidies from the EU and Government (Read W*nkers on any given day)... They don't stop the Spannies... They should just let us do what we want... We know best. Dem scientists are only making it up as they go... Celtic Sea Herring? Cod stocks? East Coast? Bass? Mackerel? Salmon and now mullet...Ah now... you know the score.... our lads were just doing their hard job... providing for their families!
It's the Departments fault- They made us paint our reg numbers in big on the side of our boats! Treated us like criminals they did... Cars must have reg plates? Ah...but we are not in cars... We're doing nothing wrong. we are conservationists doing a hard job, out in all sorts of weather... Damn Bureaucrats!
It's the laws fault - They won't punish the wrongdoers so you just have to do wrong. Log book? Ye right... in a panic if we see somebody coming... The two boats that went across to the line-fishery for mackerel off the south coast of England and filled up with mackerel... ah now... that was only for the craic!
It everybody else's fault - you see ye all don't get it.... We own the sea. We can do what we want with it. We also own the piers and slipways... that's why we block them up. Rubbish and old nets thrown around? Now that really is the Councils fault... We're to busy doing our hard job... Providing for our families.... you know the drill
With all that I still think it is wrong for the Dutch company to be taking the mick and these boats should not be where they are. Where is our Navy?
Sweetwrasse wrote:Does anyone else see the irony in Irish people complaining about these mega-trawlers fishing out stocks in our waters, when we once owned the largest trawler in the world, which fished out stocks in third world countries and condemned real artisanal fishermen to real poverty?
Yep, and it's on its way back too under another name!
I'm not against commercial fishing, but it's impossible to feel sympathy for an industry which engages in practices like the one above and is fishing itself out of existence due to pure greed and short sightedness. You can say with certainty that if (once?) fishing becomes unsustainable the same people will look for decommissioning grants from the EU- the same body that is allegedly treating it unfairly.
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