Illegal shooting of seals

Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:14 pm

seen this on face book, fairly sick in fairness...
http://irishsealsanctuary.ie/News/tabid ... fault.aspx

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:11 pm

its sad to see that it still going on 2day........ :evil: :evil:
let the pros do the job, not the trigger happy nuts!!!!!!

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:20 pm

very sad :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:03 am

oh thats terrible :roll: :roll: :roll: :idea: maybe if we brought them in to the harbours and fed them bags of fish we might keep them out of harms way. :twisted: who ever it was had a good shot. righti n the centre of the head.very hard to do with a moving target.

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:19 am

Can u eat em?....b a shame to see them go to waste, i know ya can make candles outa the blubber...........i think i,l take a spin down there in the am............

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:30 am

cortaz wrote:Can u eat em?....b a shame to see them go to waste, i know ya can make candles outa the blubber...........i think i,l take a spin down there in the am............

one of the lads a couple of years ago put up a reicpe for seal stirfry it looked the bussiness.and the eskimos sware by them.id say they would be very nutricious, omega oils and all that.i have often wondered if you need to let them hang for a while like beef or deer

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:16 am

Wow, u would imagine that the seals would have a good chance at dodging a bullet, must have been stationary, didnt derserve that anyways, poor animal..
As for the Seal Stir Fry, i dont think i could bring myself 2 eat it, lol, maybe if i didnt know it was seal i myt have a good, who knows, could be tasty!

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:02 am

Must admit to having mixed feelings about this.
Firstly though no animal should suffer this sort of treatment. :evil:
But, who sets the limits for the numbers of seals?, who decides that a cull is needed?
Having suffered harrassment from seals around Dun Laoghaire and Dalkey popping up beside the boat, taking fish and hooks etc when retrieving fish I can understand people getting p1ssed off. It is only a hobby for me and I can move off somewhere else to fish what if fishing was my job?
Do we wait until someone is bitten :shock: before the lovely cuddly creatures are seen without the rose tinted glasses?

As I say mixed feelings I like to see them as well but in what numbers.

My 2 cents worth

By the way that head shot may well have been the coup de grace for the seal but they are so close to me at times it would be no problem and I am definitely no marksman. :D


Yappo

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:24 am

Sick.

Yep you dont have to be a world class sniper totake that shot... just hang a fish over the side until they come closer...

Regarding seal numbers and taking fish from fishermen? Well nature has its own balance and seal numbers reflect this, I think its best not to mess with that. This is home for the seals, and fishermen are the guests. Same for dolphins.

When I have sen them on dives they are allways very friendly and very playful, and like most things in nature, not agressive unless provoked... well perhaps humans don't fall into that classification :(

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:12 am

if your going to cull do it the right way - these animals suffered badly it seems by the low gauge metioned

and shooting a dolphin - thats a first for me, never heard of it before

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:38 pm

Donnyboy1 wrote:Sick.

Yep you dont have to be a world class sniper totake that shot... just hang a fish over the side until they come closer...

Regarding seal numbers and taking fish from fishermen? Well nature has its own balance and seal numbers reflect this, I think its best not to mess with that. This is home for the seals, and fishermen are the guests. Same for dolphins.

When I have sen them on dives they are allways very friendly and very playful, and like most things in nature, not agressive unless provoked... well perhaps humans don't fall into that classification :(

yes donnyboy nature has its own balance.and by these seal santuarys were interfering in natures balance.when a pup is abandoned by its mother in the wild it dies, thus insureing only the strong survives.we take these pups we dont know why they have been left and hand rear them .they become pets and have no fear of us.i dont know what the seal population is like down your way but here in howth they are a huge pain in the ass. try fishing with 4 of them stripping your lines.iv lost hundreds of euros worth of gear in the last 3 years.rods ,reels, rigs ,all to seals.not to mention all the fuel used trying to get away from them. they follow the boats so they dont have to hunt.only last year they stopped the fishshops in howth selling sealfood to the tourists because there was about 100 seals in the harbour not leaving because they dident need to hunt .in the wild when two bulls fight and one gets seriously injured it dies, its not taken to a seal santuary and pumped with antibiotics.these have become vermin .the lobstermen are attacked every day trying to get there catch onboard .i put a post up 3 yrs ago when a bull leapt on to the side of the boat if my boat had of been smaller itb would have capsized.so in my eyes the only thing that i find wrong with this report is they used the wrong sized bullets

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:16 am

twinkle wrote:
Donnyboy1 wrote:Sick.

Yep you dont have to be a world class sniper totake that shot... just hang a fish over the side until they come closer...

Regarding seal numbers and taking fish from fishermen? Well nature has its own balance and seal numbers reflect this, I think its best not to mess with that. This is home for the seals, and fishermen are the guests. Same for dolphins.

When I have sen them on dives they are allways very friendly and very playful, and like most things in nature, not agressive unless provoked... well perhaps humans don't fall into that classification :(

yes donnyboy nature has its own balance.and by these seal santuarys were interfering in natures balance.when a pup is abandoned by its mother in the wild it dies, thus insureing only the strong survives.we take these pups we dont know why they have been left and hand rear them .they become pets and have no fear of us.i dont know what the seal population is like down your way but here in howth they are a huge pain in the ass. try fishing with 4 of them stripping your lines.iv lost hundreds of euros worth of gear in the last 3 years.rods ,reels, rigs ,all to seals.not to mention all the fuel used trying to get away from them. they follow the boats so they dont have to hunt.only last year they stopped the fishshops in howth selling sealfood to the tourists because there was about 100 seals in the harbour not leaving because they dident need to hunt .in the wild when two bulls fight and one gets seriously injured it dies, its not taken to a seal santuary and pumped with antibiotics.these have become vermin .the lobstermen are attacked every day trying to get there catch onboard .i put a post up 3 yrs ago when a bull leapt on to the side of the boat if my boat had of been smaller itb would have capsized.so in my eyes the only thing that i find wrong with this report is they used the wrong sized bullets
your a disgrace.if your not prepared to lose the gear then dont fish. its there home not ours.

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:12 pm

the poor seals,,,does it have something to do with bass ?

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:11 pm

I think there should be some managment of the seals around dublin there a bloody pain in the ass. Im after starting kayak angling i would fancey havin to wrestle with a seal trying to rob my fish of my line when im in the yak!!
There nice creatures just to many around. We need something done its gettin out of control every time i fish my marks around north dublin im hounded by seals robbing me gear and thats from shore marks!!!!

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:48 pm

well colum foskin you might not like my opinions. buts thats all they are opinions .yes they look friendly and so graceful in the water .but with the expirience of been attacked by one with my 7 year old on board you might not think of me as a disgrace.had my boat been any smaller like an orkney or simular we would have been in the water. unprovoked i might add.the facts are, there is too many of them in howth.and even when they do get injured. the santuary nurses them back to health and puts them straight back in .the small area around howth/irelands eye from the bailey to the stack and to the harbour there has to be 150- 200 seals a cull is needed urgently just ask any of the boaters mooring in howth harbour.as other posters has said its coming a death because of a seal attack is on the cards.they dont fear us because most of them have been hand reared its because of this interference with nature we now have them like a vermin .and i dont think anybody will then think how cuddly they are.i wont apoligize for not liking seals i have seen a side of them you havent

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:31 am

The replys to this topic are funny and sad.......

You guys blame the seal for eating fish and " harrising fishers", we are taking the food they eat, or should I say the boats are.

If we did'nt drain the sea of every living thing maybe the seals would'nt be " harrising " fishers...... :(

If this seal was shot dead by someone that tought it would help his/her fishing. They need to be done for it. Jail time.

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:38 am

twinkle wrote:
Donnyboy1 wrote:Sick.

Yep you dont have to be a world class sniper totake that shot... just hang a fish over the side until they come closer...

Regarding seal numbers and taking fish from fishermen? Well nature has its own balance and seal numbers reflect this, I think its best not to mess with that. This is home for the seals, and fishermen are the guests. Same for dolphins.

When I have sen them on dives they are allways very friendly and very playful, and like most things in nature, not agressive unless provoked... well perhaps humans don't fall into that classification :(

yes donnyboy nature has its own balance.and by these seal santuarys were interfering in natures balance.when a pup is abandoned by its mother in the wild it dies, thus insureing only the strong survives.we take these pups we dont know why they have been left and hand rear them .they become pets and have no fear of us.i dont know what the seal population is like down your way but here in howth they are a huge pain in the ass. try fishing with 4 of them stripping your lines.iv lost hundreds of euros worth of gear in the last 3 years.rods ,reels, rigs ,all to seals.not to mention all the fuel used trying to get away from them. they follow the boats so they dont have to hunt.only last year they stopped the fishshops in howth selling sealfood to the tourists because there was about 100 seals in the harbour not leaving because they dident need to hunt .in the wild when two bulls fight and one gets seriously injured it dies, its not taken to a seal santuary and pumped with antibiotics.these have become vermin .the lobstermen are attacked every day trying to get there catch onboard .i put a post up 3 yrs ago when a bull leapt on to the side of the boat if my boat had of been smaller itb would have capsized.so in my eyes the only thing that i find wrong with this report is they used the wrong sized bullets


You my friend are an [mod edit: Guys, can we please have a constructive debate without resorting to name-calling? Thanks ever so... tanglerat]
Fish somewhere else...
Find a way to get the seals to leave....

We have encrouched on THEIR hunting grounds so thats why they no come to us looking for food.
Just like the fox, they live in our gardens and garbage.

If people put their minds into finding ways of making them leave, rather then being the neanderthal and shooting them, just because you cant enjoy a days fishing we would'nt have this problem....

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:36 am

Find a way to get the seals to leave....


Your suggestions please!

Yappo

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:02 pm

yappo wrote:
Find a way to get the seals to leave....


Your suggestions please!

Yappo
i dont want them to leave they need to be culled, all they would do is move in somewhere else and become someone elses nuisance.have any of you seen kilmicheal point?lately. its a joke with the locals they call it seal town.i asked one man whos lived there all his life has it ever been like that. he told me he had never seen so many seals in his life.this has to have a big impact on fish stocks in these areas and in turn a big impact on anglers returning to fish here each summer.i know a lot of british tourist visit kilmicheal to lure fish for bass .we dont even have a regular supply of killer whales. that could trim down the seal numbers. so as we are the only predators these seals have, i think its our duty to act and cull them .with the population the way it is now it wont be long before a kayak or small punt will be attacked and someone will lose there life.
i also find it strange that on our water ways we cull lots of different species for different reasons.but iv yet to find a group representing the common water rat now there furry and some of us have them as pets. but we shoot them with out a sound from opposition.we set traps and poison them .all in there little homes and we are just the visitors to there habitat.we put slug killers and insecticide out in our gardens when we have an abundance of anything. and kill them.so why should it be any different for seals.a nation wide cull and see can we sell it to iceland.might bring in a few bob to the coffers.

Re: Illegal shooting of seals

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:57 pm

When i first put this up i thought it was disgrace but after reading some of yer posts there seems to be a serious problem in some areas. Seals aren't a massive problem down here you only encounter one or two at a time, although they might put the fishing off they wouldn't interfere with your tackle (not mine anyway) Not saying that who ever killed them seals went about the right way but maybe a cull is needed in some areas ... but shooting an animal and leaving it half dead for several hours is unacceptable