BASS need your Help

Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:47 pm

The bass that get taken in England and Wales are often the same fish that are caught in Ireland's waters, so whatever measures are taken to protect fish in either state, will benefit the anglers in both.

Please see:

http://www.anglers-net.co.uk/sacn/lates ... p?view=350

and help if you can.

Tight Lines - leon

Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:50 pm

Yup indeedy.

Especially all our members in Northern Ireland, who have MPs to write to...

Every little helps folks, and anything that helps Bass in Britain can only help Bass in Northern Ireland too.

Good Luck

Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:28 pm

I hope something comes out of it. I notice that in the Uk sea fishing mags they often site the wonderfull Irish regulations on Bass (45 cm rule, 2 fish per day and the ban in late May early June), which are great its just that I hope if anything like that happens in the UK its enforced not just written on a sign or in the press . The most difficult species to catch in Ireland is a fishery protection officer. May we should have a comp of who can catch one on camera.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:12 am

A fisheries protection officer.......... If you had one of any worth at all in Dungarvan he would have about 40 arrests in a couple of Months.

Kev

Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:50 pm

A lot of people have commented both online and in the angling press about trying to report poaching/pollution activity to fishery protection officers / bodies only to be told to 'call back the next day' during 'office hours'. Given that most of us only really fish evenings/weekends and are in a position to spot illegal activity then, it's a bit of a no-win situation - unless you're the bad guy.

This is not an attack on the diligence of fishery protection officials - rather a reminder that there are pretty few of them and they only work what they get paid to work. We need more of 'em, and 24 hour coverage.

It might be as well to remind people that fishery protection officers are not the only people who can act on information you provide. As poaching, pollution etc is a crime - call the Gardai and report it if it's outside 'office hours'.

It's unfortunate that this country does not have the resources or willpower or whatever the problem is to have a proper fisheries/environment protection network but with a bit of luck one of the lads in the blue suits will be a keen angler or conservationist and will decide to feel the perp's collar if notified.

A few contact details and links:-

Garda Confidential Line - 1800 666 111
1800 666 111 - This FreePhone number allows you to leave information confidentially on a voice recorder, so you do not speak to any person.

Remember, all details will be handled with strictest confidence. You can leave your name and contact details if you wish, as there is a difference between confidentiality and anonymity.

In an emergency, please use the telephone numbers 999 or 112, as these will elicit an immediate response. It's up to you what constitutes an emergency but don't abuse this....

You can find the location and phone number for any Garda station here:-

http://www.garda.ie/angarda/stations.html

Might be an idea to look up one local to you and bung the number in the old mobile...

Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:39 pm

The following is a link to an article about reporting possible illegal fishing activity in England & Wales.

Although a lot of it won't apply in Ireland, there are a few ideas that will.

Perhaps Sandman or someone could do something along the same lines that would be applicable to Ireland? (please let me have a copy if you do)

Feel free to cut and paste from this article.

http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/sacn/ill_net.htm

Tight Lines - leon

Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:09 am

Thanks Leon. I'm looking into this stuff now. Will take a while to pull together and check, but will post / copy you on it when done.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:27 pm

An interesting article that underlines the need for restraint among commercial fishermen. All it takes is a couple of bad years for spawning/recruitment to put an already under-pressure species over the edge into extinction.

It doesn't matter what the final straw is, be it climate, fishing pressure etc....

This is one of the arguments being used to promote the increase of the bass MLS in the UK and applies equally to quotas for cod, plaice, haddock etc. All it would take now is a few bad years and we could find ourselves in the same boat as the Canadians and Newfoundlanders who decimated their cod stocks.


http://www.anglers-net.co.uk/sacn/lates ... p?view=430

http://news.independent.co.uk/environme ... 326752.ece

Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:58 am

This might be interesting to those of you lucky enough to have a resident bass popultion - something sadly missing from the NW.

Check these links...

http://ukbass.com/2005/11/basscbe-lobby-eu.html

http://ukbass.com/2005/11/very-successful-meeting.html

Today a hearing is taking place in the EU Court of Petitions, Brussels, following the deposition of a petition by the Bass Anglers' Sportfishing Society (BASS), United Kingdom and the Collectif Bar Europ?en (CBE), France, requesting the cessation of winter pair trawling for bass by European Member States. The petition is being presented by John Leballeur, Chairman of BASS and St?phan Beaucher, Vice-President of CBE, assisted by Graham Watson MEP, (UK).

The petition requests more protective measures for the European Sea Bass (Dicentrarchus labrax) by all Member States, including:-

1.Close season during the main spawning period February-April
2.Increase in MLS of bass to 45 cms in line with UK measures now under consideration
3.Gill net mesh sizes to complement MLS 110mm
4.Commercial licences for bass, subject to track record

If Europe-wide protective legislation for bass comes in, it will over-ride any existing bass protection measures already in operation by any EU member states. That's not to say that nationally we couldn't choose to exceed any of the EU measures - ie, a larger MLS or longer close season, the operation of bag limits etc.

I think this sort of initiative is worthy of support in that it should lead to bigger fish in a few years, and more fish overall. While our government can chose not to police or enforce the bass bye laws we have nationally, if EU legislation comes in, they'll have to get with it or get fined.

While we wouldn't want to have a commercial fishery, perhaps we would like to see carcass tagging on an EU wide scale to stop the current stupidity that's apparently rife in this country with restaurants buying illegally caught bass at the back door and similarly caught fish getting exported to UK and Europe. Now is the time to get in and suggest and support.

Oh, and if anyone wants to join BASS, they're having a bit of a membership sale - sign up now, pay nothing further until Jan 2007. ?18 for an individual membership, ?27 for a club/organisation/family. Concession rate for juniors/senior citizens ?9.

http://ukbass.com/aboutbass/joinus.html

Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:52 am

"A bit more information on this thead. Some of us might question why we should try and support moves by BASS in the UK. The reason is quite clear, as this quote from the Marine Institute's web site shows:

http://www.marine.ie/industry+services/ ... sts'05.pdf

Ireland?s bass are genetically part of a European panmixia.
The origin of our broodstock is not established
beyond doubt and it is possible that some, at
least, are distributed as eggs and larvae to our coastal
waters from spawning concentrations of the adults
from the south coast of England
/north west France.


Looking at the page mentioned above, it is sadly clear that our bass stocks are not doing well at all. Despite a small rise in sea temperature averages over the last few decades, we are very much at the northern end of the bass's range so spawning failures are a constant hazard.

The report also mentions (in sadly mild term) the detrimental influence on the stock of poaching.

An issue particularly close to my own heart is also mentioned - that bass might move more to the north coast if the population were to thrive. they are rarer than hen's teeth here at the moment.

These factors convince me that we need to afford bass more protection here on at least two fronts:

1. We need effective protection from poaching.

2. As some of our stock at least depend on the successful spawning of bass in UK waters, we all ought to wade in to support BASS in their move to get the MLS approved in the upcoming consultation in England and Wales, submissions of support having to be in as early as Feb 08 2006 and Feb 14, 2006 in Wales.

More details are available at:

http://ukbass.com/bassmanagementplan/howyoucanhelp.html

If we wish to have a viable bass fishery in this country in the future, this is perhaps our best and last opportunity to set in motion a train of events that will have wide-reaching benefits. Here's why.

IF the UK MLS for bass is adopted, it is most likely that this standard will be adopted on an EU wide basis fairly soon, once the precedent is set.

Even if it took a year or two to become the Euopean standard, we should, in Ireland, be campaigning for increased protection for bass here, which should include, at least, an increase from the current MLS of 40cm to 45cm to match the proposed UK standard. This is judged to be a length at which all bass will have spawned once and may be a factor in why bass around Ireland has failed to increase, despite the legal protections it has been awarded here for years.

Our approach if we wish to protect and enhance bass stocks here should, in my opinion, be twofold.

Firstly, due to the imminent deadline to make a submission, we should write (yup, it'll cost you the price of a stamp) to DEFRA, supporting the consultation.

The address to write to is as below, along with some stuff that really has to go in your letter - the rest is up to you.


Nicola Clarke
Coastal Waters Policy Branch
Defra
Area 7E
3-8 Whitehall Place
London SW1A 2HH

CONSULTATION ON MEASURES TO INCREASE THE NUMBER AND SIZE OF BASS AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL AND RECREATIONAL FISHERMEN

I am writing to express my total support for Option 2 of the proposal to increase the bass minimum landing size from 36 cms to 45 cms.

It is clear that exploitation of bass in UK waters as it stands at the moment is quite possibly damaging to Ireland's bass stocks, as may be seen in a report by the Marine Institute at

http://www.marine.ie/industry+services/ ... sts'05.pdf

""Ireland?s bass are genetically part of a European panmixia.
The origin of our broodstock is not established
beyond doubt and it is possible that some, at
least, are distributed as eggs and larvae to our coastal
waters from spawning concentrations of the adults
from the south coast of England/north west France.""

I also support the proposal to increase the minimum mesh sizes of nets used to catch bass by licensed commercial fishermen from 90mm to 110mm.


I cannot over-emphasise how important it is to try and write your response to the Defra consultation in your own words.

Please remember to Sign the letter and print your full name beneath your signature, as well as, making sure your full address is legible so that Defra can acknowledge your response and include you in any further consultations. It will also serve to drive home that their actions in regard to this consultation will have repercussions beyond their own borders.

Hopefully, if the UK can set the precedent of recreational anglers being able to drive conservation and protection legislation, we may all then have a good chance of extending this example to other countries/species.

Secondly, we need to start petitioning at home to have the bass MLS incresed to match the proposed UK standard before it gets imposed upon us from the EU - we need to be seen as being proactive in conservation, but I'll deal with this in another post.

A very recent scientific advice by the CEFAS bass expert, Mike Pawson, which was recently printed in Fishing News and is now available on the BASS website at http://ukbass.com/2005/12/bass-mls-scie ... ew_09.html

In general, adult bass now appear to remain near their summer feeding areas much later in the year, and to spawn further north, possibly as a consequence of climate warming.

The most recent tagging study also showed that the winter offshore fishery probably accounts for no more than 10% of the exploitation on bass otherwise taken in fisheries (both commercial and recreational) within UK territorial waters. Overall, there appears to be relatively little mixing between ""UK"" stocks and those along the continental and Irish coasts.


The first step in saving our bass, therefore, has to be help the UK save theirs. Their spawning stock augments our 'native' broodstock.

Please, take 10 minutes and the price of a stamp to draft a response as outlined above.

I'm doing mine today."