Home Nations Shore 2010

On behalf of the UPC , Clubs and Executive I would like to congratulate the Irish Junior and
Youth Teams who won Gold Medals at the Home Nations Shore in Peterhead , Scotland.

This was a great achievement and with young anglers like these coming through things are
looking good for the years to come

it was a fantastic result,and congratulations to all the lads that took part,the future of irish international angling is looking good.

well done to the u21s and the u 16s great result it shows the the managment and coaching system for them is working well fair play to all involved, i know from the munster side the effort and time put in by philp and john well done lads time and effort payed off .
on a high note from the juvs and the way its run too what happened to the snrs again and why can the system not change for them as its not working no point having great young anglers comming on and nothing set up to look after them.at the moment the system for picking the anglers i think is fairly good and the snrs going away are good anglers the whole management system when there going away is letting the lads who worked hard to make the team down.
lets hope it gets fixed and 3 lots of gold next year

do you think the system for the seniors should be changed to the system the under21 n unders16s use Barry?

well it seems to be working for them ,not 100% on it but anyone i know who ever fish was disapointed with the system for snr's and the results show that.there some great anglers in this country be great to get the 3 teams in the gold.

well it seems to be working for them ,not 100% on it but anyone i know who ever fish was disapointed with the system for snr's and the results show that.there some great anglers in this country be great to get the 3 teams in the gold.

i think one main issue is lack of experience because every year there's basically 5 new caps on the irish senior team who arnt used to fishing as a team. if you look at the other 3 teams from scotland, wales and england they are pretty consistent. while they too include new caps there always at least 2 or 3 people who've been there and done it and are willing to pass the info on. fishing as a team and an individual are miles apart and it takes getting used too. as ive said before i think the current selection system for the home nations is a joke and needs to be changed dramaticly. just because we have 4 provinces doesnt mean we should have a representitive from each one. you dont see any other teams up to that carry on. im deffinitley not in favour of a c.v system, everyone should have a equal oppertunity to qaulify, but it should be hard earned and not just the outcome of one competition. at the end of the day, we have to ask ourselves do we want to take the home nations seriously and go about competing in a proffessional manner? or do we just want 5 members of a team who are delighted to be there and anything else is a bonus?

for the record this years team was pretty unlucky, the beaches were horribly peggy, some pegs had good numbers of fish and some didnt. they finished second overall on day too, so dont anyone be assuming that they were a useless bunch, there were some household names on that team, luck just wasnt on their side.

5 members of a team who are delighted to be there and anything else is a bonus is a bit of an insult to those who qualified before. having qualified for the snr team a few times the selection system needs to be changed for sure. i know of several top match anglers who have no interest in fishing this event. to say any more would be opening a big can of worms. sadly i think it will be a long time before the selection system is changed.

5 members of a team who are delighted to be there and anything else is a bonus is a bit of an insult to those who qualified before. having qualified for the snr team a few times the selection system needs to be changed for sure. i know of several top match anglers who have no interest in fishing this event. to say any more would be opening a big can of worms. sadly i think it will be a long time before the selection system is changed.

i wasnt pointing fingers or accusing anyone of any such thing. i was just presenting two stark contrasts from each other. obvioulsy we have to go about it in a proffesional manner. my point was aimed at a few members of this forum who have said in the past that match anlging is not a proffesional sport and therefore we should not take it too serioulsly. with the likes of gormely, mully, roe, molloy, o'brian, brennan, howlin, beatty etc... its ludicris that we cant compete every time we send a team away and come home with something to be proud of.

some good points lads and its sad to see that some of the top anglers in the country are so p***** of with the system they wont fish it.the question is we know the system ant working so why is nothing been done?or how can we change it.
i dont agree fully with having the same people year after year, it should be open each year to those who are good enough to get on it but it should have a coaching team of experanced anglers there who can look afterthe anglers and the fishingthe manager should be there to look after the likes of transport money ect..
no one can get on to the lads who went over this or any other year that didnt get the result they wanted ,the rest of the teams have a proffesional set up and it must be very hard to compet with that.

well, i would say that each person who qualifies from each province has had to do well in their respective provinces qualifying system to win their provincial closed gold medal?? i know the jimmy smith winner is taken from a one off competition, but then again, they have become the all ireland individual champion, anyone who wins this in my opinion is a good angler also they have to beat a fairly big field of anglers to do so.. at the end of the day you can only beat those who enter the competitions, so it is down to all anglers to enter the respective competitions and fish hard to win them.
should the jimmy smith be fished over 3 legs on one weekend similar to master angler shore?
i stand corrected but i think the provincial closed gold winner will have to have fished at least 3 legs in their province to win it too?
for years at world level we have not figured, costs have increased to a point where some anglers cant afford to go even they did qualify so they dont bother trying to qualify. should we as a federation just focus on home nations instead?? many ways to look at things.
a lot of names were thrown into the mix above, and all are damn good anglers, no taking that away, but lets not forget that there are quite a few guys in ulster and connaught that are quite capable as well.
i do believe that there should be the 5 team members, plus manager, plus coach/reserve angler travel to home nations as well.
with the competition in Ulster next year, there is no reason why the anglers who do qualify cant be practising on the venues a few weeks before hand to get to grips with them and know what they need to know before hand.

fair dues to all the lads who took part on the senior team, i dont not doubt for one minute that they all gave it their best shot and they could only catch what was in front of them.

with the juniors and youths, quite a lot of these guys have experience a few times at home nations level and have learnt more everytime the get away, plus they are getting coached and supportted more at provincial level than they ever did before and the results are now showing through.well done to all involved.