Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:54 pm
Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:14 am
one word : disgusting
Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:26 am
keanser wrote:one word : disgusting
i agree.
Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:19 am
Hmmm! yanks makoing a story for the news, not my cuppa but,,,, that's fishing for ya!
Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:38 am
gaffing it on the surface, no hook, line or rod involved, thats not even fishing in my book.
bunch of w**kers
pity one of them didn't fall in
Last edited by oneillphil on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:25 pm
what is sportmanlike angling ?, either way you look at it its a cruel sport, every day i come on here there is a story were we are trying to say were better than them, wether it preaching c&r, or the fish was breeding stock and so on and on , no matter what way we look at it sticking hooks into fish,
is it cruel or not?
and i admit its not the best way to catch the fish, but isnt it fishing in some sence,
Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:33 pm
dbrock wrote:what is sportmanlike angling ?, either way you look at it its a cruel sport, every day i come on here there is a story were we are trying to say were better than them, wether it preaching c&r, or the fish was breeding stock and so on and on , no matter what way we look at it sticking hooks into fish,
is it cruel or not?
and i admit its not the best way to catch the fish, but isnt it fishing in some sence,
i can see you taking up casting over grass
Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:34 pm
Thats just crazy, but also not at all surprising. I spend a week in Florida fishing earlier this year and every single day I saw at least 10 large shark, many much bigger, and including one run in with a hammerhead of about 15ft according to the skipper. For them to say it's a once in a lifetime sight is nothing short of a lie.
Short and simple, the US has no concept of catch and release so it doesn't surprise me that this happened. I was given a bollocking on a party boat fishing trip for releasing fish as I had no inclination to kill , and no use for them if I did. If that's the attitude of established and well respected skippers then does it surprise you that scenes like this appear all the time over there?
Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:39 pm
JOHN1 wrote:dbrock wrote:what is sportmanlike angling ?, either way you look at it its a cruel sport, every day i come on here there is a story were we are trying to say were better than them, wether it preaching c&r, or the fish was breeding stock and so on and on , no matter what way we look at it sticking hooks into fish,
is it cruel or not?
and i admit its not the best way to catch the fish, but isnt it fishing in some sence,
i can see you taking up casting over grass

no no not at all ill still be out fishing and shooting both will reflect in killing animals but like it or not its the nature of our sport,
i was just wondering what sportmanlike angling is
Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:12 pm
dbrock wrote:JOHN1 wrote:dbrock wrote:what is sportmanlike angling ?, either way you look at it its a cruel sport, every day i come on here there is a story were we are trying to say were better than them, wether it preaching c&r, or the fish was breeding stock and so on and on , no matter what way we look at it sticking hooks into fish,
is it cruel or not?
and i admit its not the best way to catch the fish, but isnt it fishing in some sence,
i can see you taking up casting over grass

no no not at all ill still be out fishing and shooting both will reflect in killing animals but like it or not its the nature of our sport,
i was just wondering what sportmanlike angling is
its probably something like fishing for the likes of tope using single barbless hooks on 50lb mono snoods instead of 8/0 barbed pennels on 200lb mono or wire.
Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:02 pm
dbrock wrote:JOHN1 wrote:dbrock wrote:what is sportmanlike angling ?, either way you look at it its a cruel sport, every day i come on here there is a story were we are trying to say were better than them, wether it preaching c&r, or the fish was breeding stock and so on and on , no matter what way we look at it sticking hooks into fish,
is it cruel or not?
and i admit its not the best way to catch the fish, but isnt it fishing in some sence,
i can see you taking up casting over grass

no no not at all ill still be out fishing
and shooting both will reflect in killing animals but like it or not its the nature of our sport,
i was just wondering what sportmanlike angling is
Not if the Greens get what they want you wont!!
Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:13 pm
You could be right there d fella, then we will all be casting in the field
Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:47 pm
i cant see the problem, they caught a shark with a gaff, the shark had it coming, it ate their swordfish!!! at the end of the day they ate the shark and put it to good use so i cant see any problem??
Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:08 pm
not anglers in my book, were's the sport in that
Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:44 pm
dbrock wrote:You could be right there d fella, then we will all be casting in the field

Well depends on how they feel about the lead being used. It might pollute! We could all end up hugging trees in a field. On a good note they might shaft FF and NAMA.
As for the video posted you can't call it fishing because of the way the caught the fish. I can't see how it was news worthy to be honest. Now if one had jumped in and battered the shark or vice versa that would be a story.
Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:14 am
catch and release in florida they do on some species you also have to buy a licence i think your allowed keep two fish this variies from state to state but also in the states most of the bays are heavily polluted and you cant eat the fish anyway
san francisco huge turbot salmon and bass are all put back as you cant eat them the licence is strictly inforced by the fisheries board all charters coming back to port are inspected and any fish taken above the allowed amount ie 1 salmon per angler the skipper is fined and get suspended from fishing for a few days this insures that the skippers stick to the rules strictly. mako sharks in florida are like mackeral here there are huge amounts of them along with bulls hammerheads and about 100 other breeds of shark so there seen as vermin there. so the lads in the video with the gaff would not see any wrong in what they were doing. different strokes for different folks
Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:49 pm
dbrock wrote:what is sportmanlike angling ?, either way you look at it its a cruel sport, every day i come on here there is a story were we are trying to say were better than them, wether it preaching c&r, or the fish was breeding stock and so on and on , no matter what way we look at it sticking hooks into fish,
is it cruel or not?
and i admit its not the best way to catch the fish, but isnt it fishing in some sence,
So your telling me that you see nothing wrong in pointlessly killing an animal that is listed on the IUCN as vulnerable? There is a huge difference between killing an apex predator such as this shark and a mackeral. Fishing is fishing - but this here isn't fishing. It's mindless and pointless slaughter of an increasing rare animal
Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:09 pm
You hit the nail on the head there that's exactly what I'm saying, it's amazing how we think killing macs or whiting is dif to say a shark or a bass (god forgive)
Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:48 am
Why don't use all start worrying about what's happen to all of the juviniel fish on our peirs over here by some anglers instead of going on about the way people catch fish in other countries
Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:01 am
ShaneH wrote:Why don't use all start worrying about what's happen to all of the juviniel fish on our peirs over here by some anglers instead of going on about the way people catch fish in other countries
Agree with you Shane, and id say them yanks would break their heart laughing watching us catching pin whiting and micro flats, as has been the case most of the time ive fished lately.Horses for courses
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