Long Finned Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:03 am

I just heard an 18 lb Rays Bream was found washed up on Bray Beach last night :shock: :shock:

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:09 pm

gone a bit off course :shock:

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:31 am

It did not get washed up, a guy walking his dogs on the beach saw it chasing something shallow water, wadded in and grabbed it. It is now residing in a freezer waiting for a suitable party!
I'll see if I can get a picture of it.

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:18 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I wonder what it was doing up near Bray...

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:24 pm

18lb!!!! come on.... the irish record is just under 3kg's
rubbish if you ask me

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:44 am

i think i will have to back up brianbru on this one,



The fresh Ray's Bream, Brama brama, was found on Harlech Beach, Gwynedd, north-west Wales (Grid ref: SH 574 317). It weighed approximately 1.5 to 2 kg and was about 50 cm long. It was left stranded dead on the beach after ebb tide had receded for about an hour.



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Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:25 am

Mark Shortt has it in his freezer, It was identified by Warren Doyle, and the Natural History Museum want it :)

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:00 pm

Myself and phanover came across one washed up one night on Garretstown beach in Cork after a big blow 2 years ago. Looked to be fairly fresh too. Wasn't that big right enough, from memory (distant) I would say it was about 2lbs or so.


Heres the link....

http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7722&p=48843&hilit=rays+bream#p48843

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:09 am

So was it 18lbs or what was the proper weight and was it just washed up dead ???

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:32 am

I talked to Mark about this yesterday- he said it was 18lbs and that it wasn't washed up, it was spotted in the shallows, still alive.

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:49 pm

That's a massive Rays Bream, biggest I've heard of in European waters is only about 7lb!

For a couple of years they used to be regularly stranded in the Firth of Forth near Edinburgh, they were banned from competitions because of this.

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:37 pm

jd wrote:I talked to Mark about this yesterday- he said it was 18lbs and that it wasn't washed up, it was spotted in the shallows, still alive.


it looks like you missed the (POINT) in this one. :lol: :lol:

are you sure its not meant to read 1 . 8 lbs
judging by the size of the ripples in sand its 1.8lbs :wink: :lol:

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:38 pm

Previous photo posted by Mickeyfish was of one washed up in Wales.

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Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:55 pm

yeah john1 that looks about 1.8lbs alri ! :wink: :lol:

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:53 pm

boycie89 wrote:yeah john1 that looks about 1.8lbs alri ! :wink: :lol:


i was not far out :wink:

i deserve to get my knuckles rapped because i didnt read the whole post and did not realise the first fish was caught in wales :oops:

sorry jd.......

id say the one in the new picture is around 18.0lbs :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:57 pm

showed the photo to an ecologist at university, and he says its a long finned bream, the lower anal and dorsal fin are too far extended for a rays bream, there also more common in the northern Atlantic area

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:02 pm

eric wrote:showed the photo to an ecologist at university, and he says its a long finned bream, the lower anal and dorsal fin are too far extended for a rays bream, there also more common in the northern Atlantic area


he seems to be on the ball eric :wink:

it looks like a TARACTICHTHYS LONGIPINNIS :shock: to me aswell.
where would we be without the internet :lol: :lol: :lol:.

Re: Rays Bream in Bray

Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:11 pm

Yep...its definitely a Long Finned Bream !!

Never know what we'll be catching in a few years time !!

Re: Long Finned Bream in Bray

Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:30 pm

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on how I'd fish for one of those....bait/rigs etc :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Long Finned Bream in Bray

Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:59 pm

It appears to be a bigscale pomfret although its difficult to tell from that pic, impressive anal fin alright. There are stacks of Atlantic Pomfret(Ray's Bream) of the west coast, all deepwater but they are there in numbers.