Special Protection Areas in Wexford-will it affect Angling?

I heard this information third hand so details are not confirmed..

But I have been informed that there is a meeting to express objections( for whom/by whom I dont know) in the Talbot Hotel on the 12th of FEB to discus to possible BAN on :

All recreational fishing.
Commercial fishing within 2 miles of the coast.
All bait digging.

From Rosslare to Hook Head!!!

Time period I dont Know.

Any one esle hear about this?

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I haven't hear about this., Is this a proposal by a statutory body, or by some other group (environmentalists or similar)

jd

I talked to a local- thre has been a lot about this on local radio, and in the newspapers.

The proposals could affect a lot of people including anglers, bait collectors, mussel fishermen, hunting clubs etc

There is a public meeting in the Talbot Hotel, Tuesday 12th at 8.00 pm.

I'll try and get more details.

jd

Good man JD.

The more information the better.

It does'nt sound good for anglers though.

As far as I hear the said ban is only in Wex Hbr.

F****g ridiculous...

Pricks in offices making decisions....

so there talking about a ban in wex harbour now this is getting ridiculous now i fished the harbour all my youth and my little one started there as well this is another sign that anglers will have to become more militant and more vocal


fintan

Details about this proposal seem to be very thin on the ground. Does anyone know exactly what is being proposed?

I think I'd rather wait until I know whether this will effect angling before getting too excited. For all we know it might actually benefit anglers. I'm keeping an open mind for the moment.

if its from rosslare to the hook surely that will eliminate most of the kilmore marks. crashing the local economy which is almost solely dependant on anglers cash all summer long

only Wexford harbour is mentioned in paper.
It mentions the designation of Wexford harbour as a SPA.
http://www.wexford.ie/wex/Departments/P ... 58,en.html

The Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Mr John Gormley, T.D., proposes to designate 3 Special Protection Areas (SPA) for wild birds in accordance with Article 4 of the European Council Directive on the conservation of wild birds (79/409/EEC) in Wexford as follows:

Site Code 004076 Wexford Harbour and Slobs,



Site Code 004009, Lady’s Island, and



Site Code 004020 Ballyteigue Burrow.

Thats the green party for you they are anti hunting and anti fishing seems that some sort of rare bird takes precident over a multimillion euro tourism activity.... next stop .... waterford...cork ...kerry etc :shock: :oops: :cry:

I talked to the parks service- Angling is not on the radar for this at all.
Nor in fact is bait collection for local shops.

What would be on the radar would be large scale commercial bait operations.

They have already held consultations with local landowners etc.

I'll try and find out mor eon this.

Wexford Harbour is already a SAC (Special Area of Conservation) - this relates to the Habitats directive.

Special Areas of Conservation (SACs) are strictly protected sites designated under the EC Habitats Directive. Article 3 of the Habitats Directive requires the establishment of a European network of important high-quality conservation sites that will make a significant contribution to conserving the 189 habitat types and 788 species identified in Annexes I and II of the Directive (as amended). The listed habitat types and species are those considered to be most in need of conservation at a European level (excluding birds). Of the Annex I habitat types, 78 are believed to occur in the UK. Of the Annex II species, 43 are native to, and normally resident in, the UK.



Special Protection Areas (S PAs) are strictly protected sites classified in accordance with Article 4 of the EC Directive on the conservation of wild birds (79/409/EEC), also known as the Birds Directive, which came into force in April 1979. They are classified for rare and vulnerable birds, listed in Annex I to the Birds Directive, and for regularly occurring migratory species.

Please Note this has nothing to do with Coastwatch Ireland the Seminar
Organized by Coastwatch was all about Marine protected areas to aid fish stocks on inshore waters .
We do not know any thing about any meeting in Wexford but will try to find out.
I was at the meeting in Dublin as was the IFSA P.R.O.

Please Note this has nothing to do with Coastwatch Ireland the Seminar
Organized by Coastwatch was all about Marine protected areas to aid fish stocks on inshore waters .
We do not know any thing about any meeting in Wexford but will try to find out.
I was at the meeting in Dublin as was the IFSA P.R.O.

Thanks for clarifying,, i'll remove post

fair play jd on finding out the info good job.if it does not affect anglers or bait digging for ourselfs it can only be good for angling,but all clubs in area should attend meeting and voice there opinion to local polations make sure there herd.we did it in waterford for the cockle harvesting with great sucess.thats the good thing with this site shows info and gets everyone aware of the problem.

I was at the Coastwatch meeting and can confirm this did not form any part of the discussions.

The Coastwatch view of anglers expressed at the meeting was positive as they recognise we are closer to the environment than most people and can see trends developing and also report incidents as they happen.

There was a debate about the detrimental effect of commercial cockle harvesting at low tide but bait collecting and removal of cockles etc for personal use were exempt.

I have renamed thread.
Also there is a report on this page 2 of today's Irish Times.
jd
ps (Also an article on turtles getting grounded)

Anything that keeps our shores safe from profiteers has to be good. When all is said and done its money that drives folk to exploit their surroundings with no regard to others. The sea is a resource we can all enjoy as long as we are not selfish. There is plenty of room for anglers, bird spotters, walkers, boating enthusiasts *MOD EDIT* No Trolling. There cannot be room for beam trawling, poachers, those mackeral bashers that leave the place like a tip and any one else that leaves the place worse than they found it. Anything that improves it for the majority and not for profit has my vote.

SPAs and SACs (and NHAs for that matter) are not worth the paper they are written on - our state pays fines weekly back to the EU for not protecting or designating these areas

there are numerous documented cases where designations have been simply forgotten about if a vested interest requires a site for anything

these sites were meant to be ratified by the state back in 2000 - since then virtually nothing has happened

except for avoidance - the amount of SACs - that were candidtate SACs (cSAC) could then become proposed candidate SACs (pcSAC) - ones that were not designated ones that were - there is a whole plethora of rubbish that the status of many SACs are unknown (very handy if the digging has begun)

Do not expect anything out of a designation - even if there was a designation your fishing activity would have to be proven to impact on the particular species

even if this was proven - who would enforce it

yes meeting in talbot tuesday all clubs in wexford going the word is from wex harbour to hook :twisted: all info greatfull,f#en tree huggers