Re: eating wrasse

Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:47 pm

fishonit wrote:if theres no fish left you wont need to worry about bait . only way we get people to listen is get a law for catch and release with a heavy fine if broken . end of story, otherwise keep hammering away at them and in a few years there willl be nothing left. then you talk s*** about how they eat wrasse in ireland and all the rest. it will be a story you can tell your grandchildren in years to come about how the humans destroyed all the fish and thats why there is no sea fishing sport left, forget the trawlers there bad enough, a lot of people are just on the band wagon, just blame the commercial sector and on we go! the day will come sooner than we think



Not quite sure who this reply is aimed at?? you should think VERY carefully about your viewpoint. where as catch an release is very commendable there will also come a time in this nanny state society where the tree huggers and cucumber sandwich brigade convince everyone else that it is not acceptable to torture fish just for fun. Why would you do that? At least with hunting for food there is a moral reason for doing so.
do you extend this courtesy to all the fish in the sea or just the pretty ones?

Dont get me wrong , you do not need to convince me I am all for returning fish and conservation but I am also aware that not everyone fishes for fun and I believe in their right to do so

Re: eating wrasse

Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:19 pm

Yes. People are entitled to keep fish if they wish. Your argument re fishing for sport is often made and to be honest it has some merit. But I have no intention of starting to kill fish just to placate the anti-bloodsport brigade or others in an effort to prepare for some possible face-off in the future. I realise of course that you are not suggesting that I or anyone else should and that you return some or all of your fish yourself. I agree with fishonit re commercials and my view has changed on this fairly recently. I used to think that sea anglers had little or no impact on fish stocks. It is of course true that poachers and commercials do far more damage but anglers can have a negative impact too. Wrasse are a good example of a species with a local population but many bass anglers are now noticing a reduction in catches. A lot of this may be due to poaching or environmental factors but some are attributing this to the bass craze and the subsequent increase in angling pressure on their marks. It is convenient to blame it all on the commercials and carry on regardless but with at least some species angling may indeed have a negative impact on fish populations.

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Re: eating wrasse

Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:04 pm

Tanglerat wrote:You'll take sea trout and brown trout, but not slob trout? The Austrian, I'm beginning to think you're a bit weird! :mrgreen:
should have said with no valid license :wink: well spotted! And you might be right with the other part of the statement also, heard this a lot recently :P

Re: eating wrasse

Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:46 am

A lot of folks don't have a clue, wrasse are caught by commercial fishing but get put back they are a hardy fish and don't get brought up from Big depths, like monk, the reason we have people fishing is to provide for those who can't and want a healthy alternative.I use to drift net for salmon On an average day we could catch 4 salmon there were weeks when their were none.anglers tend to blame the people who are trying to earn a sustainable living from the sea.I have yet to hear of any one pointing out the increased amount of pollution in rivers flowing out to sea, the amount of individuals fishing for salmon On the fly far out number any past drift net license,s but because they are killing salmon for fun rather than a living it's ok??,
I fish for fun always have always will, have a camera to show people what I caught don't need to bring it home

Re: eating wrasse

Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:36 pm

grew up fishing gunners. took an odd one for the pan. you wouldnt take too many because of the bones.
but the flavour is akin to turbot. Dont see why i should have to obey a catch and release for these as they are abundant where i fish them and we dont abuse the resource.

Re: eating wrasse

Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:46 pm

thats no bother john I'd be grand with a fish or two per day on some species (endangered ones) but I tell you only two days ago I sat and watched a guy take very single wrasse that he caught, some were no bigger than my hand. sad stuff watching ur favorite wrass mark being smashed up. every one has the right to a fish they catch but this was taken the piss and only the day before that i releasesd over ten wrasse back all safe n sound, i starting to wonder why I bother

Re: eating wrasse

Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:54 pm

fishonit wrote:thats no bother john I'd be grand with a fish or two per day on some species (endangered ones) but I tell you only two days ago I sat and watched a guy take very single wrasse that he caught, some were no bigger than my hand. sad stuff watching ur favorite wrass mark being smashed up. every one has the right to a fish they catch but this was taken the piss and only the day before that i releasesd over ten wrasse back all safe n sound, i starting to wonder why I bother


That was a disgrace then. Its pretty soul destroying to see that alright. Wrasse are an amazing fish both to look at and fish. . what a fight.

Re: eating wrasse

Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:56 pm

So many valid points here, but the whole point I see here is because someone loves fishing for wrasse for sport we should make it C&R?... I get that they are slow growing and a mark can be cleaned out easy but why jump the gun and make it C&R, why not make it so their is a catch limit or size limit.......

I always love when people start complaining about how their special type of fish should be C&R but yet they will gladly bring home a cod or a ray or a bass..... I keep anything Im going to eat, but mostly I keep doggies because I always seem to get them most! and they taste nice. But I get funny looks, and one guy when he seen me skinning the doggie asked " Are times really that hard "....... No, I eat them because they are fish but just because they are not on the top of a restaurant menu people arnt interested.

I have never eaten a wrasse because I heard it is more hassle than its worth with cooking and the amount of bones so I don't bother..

Any way my point is, if you are going to complain about people keeping one type of fish and fight for C&R you may as-well practice C&R on everything you catch!....

Re: eating wrasse

Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:49 pm

myworldfishing wrote:Any way my point is, if you are going to complain about people keeping one type of fish and fight for C&R you may as-well practice C&R on everything you catch!....


I generally agree with that and have said it before elsewhere. Ideally out of respect to other anglers who may prefer to fish for different species from you it makes sense (for the catch and release or bag limit angler) to return or adopt a bag limit on all fish. I mean rather than just conserving the particular species you value. It also wouldn't do the ecosystem as a whole any harm. But some species are of course more vulnerable than others and putting some fish back is better than returning nothing.

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