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Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:54 pm

The Austrian wrote:this is the future plan of GMO salmon from a Norwegian company if they can go ahead. The end of our fishing for sure: http://www.fis.com/fis/worldnews/worldn ... +target%3D
Please sign the petition above and put a stop to the exploitation of Irish property through greedy investors and shareholders AGAIN! Why do we have such short memories? Did anyone learn from the just recent history? Please, even if you can't understand it yet - your children will! And then they will come back to you and blame you for ruining their future! SIGN THE PETITION!!! NOW, before it will be to late for good! You have been warned!


Just put AquaGen and Marine Harvest with a comma between them and have a look at what I found here http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticl ... x?id=18966

Very interesting, I would love to know why Marine Harvest sold their stake in the company, they must have been aware that this announcement was in the offing and the shares in the company would soar because of it, very strange, but I have not dug any deeper yet, God only knows who owns the majority share holder. They will do anything to make money and I cannot see why they would sell their shares when good news was coming.

Onward and upward.

Best wishes Wez

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Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:22 pm

I would urge each and every member on here to watch this video http://salmonconfidential.ca/

If anyone watches this and still eats farmed salmon or, on the of chance anyone agreed with this salmon cage city in Galway, and after watching this still agrees that it should go ahead, then I feel that you are beyond anything I can say to change your mind.

The video shows the outright lying of the Canadian government and how far they will go to assist Marine Harvest cover up the multitude of ailments their farmed salmon have, sound familiar? This will let people see what the salmon farming business is all about, but the fish from the Galway salmon farming metropolis will be "organic" so this will hardly apply; some chance of that. The Pacific salmon are suffering to such an extent that all those involved in their welfare and fishing from them, are alarmed to a very big extent, the same thing is almost a certainty to happen here too.

If anyone is interested I have compiled loads of stuff about this subject and have the URLs to loads of sites which explain things in much better detail I could ever do, I can let you have them just send me a PM and I will forward them to you, might take more than one message to get them to you.

Please tell all your friends about the video and let them make up their minds as to the merits of this proposed farmed salmon metropolis in Galway Bay and whether they want to eat fish from the cages. It should be known that the vast majority of the salmon farmed all over the world are sold to China and that is where any farmed in Galway Bay will go if it is given the go ahead. I do not understand why, well maybe I do considering the clout that Marine Harvest have, why this film has not been shown on the mainline TV providers, but like everything money talks, brown envelopes and all that this country is infamous for.

Best wishes Wez
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Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:16 pm

Done Wez .

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:39 pm

This is what the Irish Wildlife Trust has to say about the proposal:

http://iwt.ie/2012/12/iwt-opposes-plans ... alway-bay/

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:10 pm

signed.nice one wes.

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:30 pm

Hugo wrote:This is what the Irish Wildlife Trust has to say about the proposal:

http://iwt.ie/2012/12/iwt-opposes-plans ... alway-bay/


Coveney seem content to ride rough shod over everyone to get the Norwegians their back door into China. Make you wonder what other back door deals have been done with Marine Harvest.

Best wishes Wez

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:45 pm

everybody on here should sign this.
sad is what it is. :(
coveney boy ha? f**king us up the ass again without having the decency to give us a reach around. :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:16 pm

Done

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:22 pm

Donezo

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Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:12 pm

Hi All another very interesting development has been brought to my attention and it is a very exciting development I feel. Have a look here http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/ó-cuív-claims-minister-compromised-over-fish-farm-plan-1.1335955

Seems our democratic minister had his mind made up a year ago that the farm would get the go ahead, why did he come out with a whitewash that was the consultation process. Any sane person with a basic knowledge of the viruses farmed salmon have and the harm their sea lice do to our wild fish would have seen that the environmental impact accession was a load of rubbish. It has been proved that the sea lice are the reason for the demise of the wild sea trout, but BIM dismiss it as being nothing what-so-ever to do with it. The whole thing has been paid for long ago and the minister must deliver, well he hopes he can. It is a joke and would be so funny if the resultant habitat loss and the loss of our wild migratory fish, the loss of shell fish and crabs and lobsters and we will be forced to endure more and more red tides, make no mistake they are a direct result of fish farming. Last years outbreak could be seen for what it was, a combination of outbreaks from areas where fish farms proliferate and the marine institute telling people that it was a natural occurrence. The pic is from June/July and in nearly every instance there are fish farms where the outbreak is the most intense, need I say more, anyway it is not me who says the detritus from the fish farms causes the blooms, it is a well know fact amongst scientists. The red tide started in the Mulroy Bay area of Donegal and the rest is history, the only real outbreak down this way was in the Kenmare River/Bantry Bay area and we have fish farms there too. All you need do is to imagine the locations of the fish farms and overlay them on the map of the outbreak of the red tide last year, I think the evidence is overwhelming, not that we need it as it has been proved that salmon farming causes red tides.I have to ask the question; if these small farms can produce such an occurrence then what can we expect from the proposed one in Galway Bay.

Keep up the fight folks we can and will win this one and the rest will never be mentioned again.

Best regards Wez
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Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:54 pm

Thanks for presenting us with the opportunity to help. I've signed the petition. Good work.

Thanks also for the news on the proposed deep sea fishing ban. From my ignorant view I see a ban of some sort being good for stock recovery. If Struan doesn't want a ban in shallow water or deep water then what does he suggest as a solution for overfishing and stock recovery?

John D.

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Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:13 pm

Great point by Hugo - it amazes me how little communication there is between Government departments!!!

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Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:54 pm

Done wez

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:31 pm

More online browsing has confirmed for me that the North Clare Burren is a National Park. This development will be right in front of Ballyvaughan-Doolin coastline of that national park. How did they square that one among themselves?

Also the general Galway Bay is apparently already an SAC. You can download and read the site synopsis here:
http://www.npws.ie/protectedsites/speci ... omplexsac/

Its quite short and understandable. Note what it says near the end about concerns over sewage and aquaculture.

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:22 pm

Hugo wrote:More online browsing has confirmed for me that the North Clare Burren is a National Park. This development will be right in front of Ballyvaughan-Doolin coastline of that national park. How did they square that one among themselves?

Also the general Galway Bay is apparently already an SAC. You can download and read the site synopsis here:
http://www.npws.ie/protectedsites/speci ... omplexsac/

Its quite short and understandable. Note what it says near the end about concerns over sewage and aquaculture.


Thanks Hugo, it makes you wonder OK, surely it cannot be allowed to set up the worlds biggest salmon farm in a Special Area of Conservation. It is well known that this farm will produce the same amount of "sewage" as a medium sized city, just consider that for a moment and then try to comprehend who that will fit into a SAC. At least a city's waste/sewage will have been treated, the farms will not have been and it will be worse than any human waste.

Good spot mate, best regards Wez

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:30 pm

Already signed.

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Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:53 am

is it passed by government as an SAC or is it still only a proposed SAC or candidate SAC?
these areas can be SACs in terms of european commitments but on the ground not passed by national government
so while the deal is being done there is no real protection or policing etc

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Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

corbyeire wrote:is it passed by government as an SAC or is it still only a proposed SAC or candidate SAC?
these areas can be SACs in terms of european commitments but on the ground not passed by national government
so while the deal is being done there is no real protection or policing etc


No, it seems to be a full SAC according to the official site. Have a look yourself. Also, Inishmaan and Inishmore are protected by SACs, but not Inisheer..... makes you wonder.

On rereading the synopsis, it may be the SAC only applies east of Black Head, it's not totally clear. But even so, the tidal surge is going to carry the fish farm detritus straight into the inner bay and onto all the shore areas and habitats that are specifically protected by the SAC.

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Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:11 pm

Hugo wrote:
corbyeire wrote:is it passed by government as an SAC or is it still only a proposed SAC or candidate SAC?
these areas can be SACs in terms of european commitments but on the ground not passed by national government
so while the deal is being done there is no real protection or policing etc


No, it seems to be a full SAC according to the official site. Have a look yourself. Also, Inishmaan and Inishmore are protected by SACs, but not Inisheer..... makes you wonder.

On rereading the synopsis, it may be the SAC only applies east of Black Head, it's not totally clear. But even so, the tidal surge is going to carry the fish farm detritus straight into the inner bay and onto all the shore areas and habitats that are specifically protected by the SAC.


Totally agree Hugo, each and every bay, but it's very nature has everything in it collected by the incoming tide and pushed all the way up the bay till it comes to the beaches, where it is deposited.

Have a look at this, it is from a docu that RTE showed in 2003, as you will find out both BIM and the Marine Institute have taken a somewhat differing view of matters since then, just wonder when and more to the point, why they changed their mind.

Keep up the fight, this is one we cannot loss, of we do then I fear that what I have enjoyed all my live, the right to fish for the king of fish, will not be afforded to the up and coming anglers.

Best regards Wez

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Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:06 am

Was trying to sign it kept saying my address was error