Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:17 pm

@ all
would you all calm down a little, please!!!
I know, tempers can get heated up and so on - still lads, think before you post generalised and possibly unjustified remarks on a public forum. Deal with the situation there - when it arises, education and whatever, but please - don't just be a keyboard warrior and leave pointless rant postings a few days later on here. It is not the responsibility of the forum's management to deal with these issues. This board is about sharing angling information but not for political or ethnic discussions. Go to boards.ie for that. Thanks for your understanding and tight lines 8)

Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:06 pm

Well spoken Austrian. Good to see somebody with sense aboard. My own opinion is if you watch one of the big trawlers coming into killybegs or any other large port and she weighed down with her catch, it would a hell of a lot of shore fishers with buckets and lidl bags to equal her haul not to speak of what she has destroyed.

Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:16 am

Lads you are deluded if you don't think that it is mainly fn's that are doing this. It IS them they are filled with greed and no respect for our country. I do a lot of pike fishing and if you think the taking of tiddlers is bad you would want to walk the banks of some lakes and have a look at the carcasses of up to 40lb pike. They stick out night lines for them so they are not even there to fish. There is murder going on about this and one forum is getting members to help with policing the lakes.
There was a competition on a river a few weeks ago and huge amounts of pike where caught it was a great day. The next few weeks the banks where littered with carcasses and rubbish. The guys on the forum now do not put up any results of what fish that where caught now so technically an Irish competition has to go underground in its own country!! There are rules about coarse fishing and a lot of them are being caught and prosecuted and 99% are yes youv'e guessed it the greedy fn's. Yes there are some good but not enough.
I am only sorry their favourite passtime wasn,t magpie shooting or something similar. Greed greed greed!!!!

Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:19 am

this topic has been highlighted quite a fewtimes over the last few years.and in my opinion it falls on deaf ears .there is no use in approaching any of these guys as the result is them letting on they dont understand.howth harbour and dun laire have been cleaned out of juvenile fish pollock and coalies all goldfish size in buckets and bags.i think the only fish they dont take is the blennys as" they dont taste nice" what will happen as a result of this and has happened in other countries is a complete ban on harbour fishing.harbours are the nurserys of a lot of species and if this slaughter is allowed to continue we will see a huge drop in adult fish. even our charter boats are refusing to take some of these lads out because they refuse to put anything back. paul bates in kilmore told me of a fist fight on board after he threw a tope back in from one of these foreign guys, paul had tagged and weighed it and the guy went beserk when paul released it.as i have stated in other posts on this subject dont go over as this always leads to violence as large amounts of alcohol are the norm on these"fishing trips" the lads on some streches of the canal in dublin police the banks themselves and release the captured
fish back in to the canal.they dont tend to come back near that strech again :lol:

Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:31 pm

Don't start bashing the FN's. Irish people are as bad, I've seen lads in Dublin and Mayo. catching more than 40 mack and just leaving them on the ground when they left.

I've seen Irish lads kick dogfish around the pier.

The chinese guys eat every bit of the fish and every fish they catch so I say fair play to them.

The reality is, they're not effecting the stock of fish. The trawlers and the dredgers are doing that.

It's a different culture and they are not breaking any law, so don't try and enforce a law that doesn't exist.

All this crap about FN's doing this and doing that is xenaphobic bullshit, as a nation we've been doing our best to pollute, overfish and destroy habitats for the last 50 years.

A couple of guys take a few tiddlers home for a stew? so what!

Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:17 pm

The removal of juvenile fish from all-ready depleted inshore stocks is more than certainly affecting levels of fish at easily accessible marks. Granted the trawlers have caused the most damage with regard to depleted fish stocks in our seas, but the taking of any juvenile fish even just 1 fish, has to have a negative impact on stocks. For whatever the reason; we all know policing our fish stocks is an impossibility and consequently we the anglers of Ireland have unknowingly become the front line of defence against any illegal or destructive methods of fishing. I personally salute any angler that confronts or reports any illegal or destructive methods fishing.
Every angler has civic and moral duties with regard to protecting our fish stocks, and preventing or persuading anybody; be they Irish or whatever nationality, from taking juvenile fish, is one of those duties.

Re: Our Foreign friends killing everything

Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:27 pm

Surely we the angler are part of the problem then, we are out there catching fish, we bring home fish for the pan some bring home fish just to claim a specimen, Not every single undersize fish we throw back survives.

If you want to try explain the problem to someone fair enough. There's no law being broken and no one has any right chastise anyone else down the sea shore. Illegal nets of course are a different story.

Keeping larger fish and throwing back the small ones is actually backwards because its the larger fish that are the ones that are reproducing.

I hate to watch people of any nationality keeping undersize fish etc but they're not breaking any laws.

I stopped visiting the boards.ie angling forum because it was FN's this and FN's that. I'd be greatly disappointed if that what happens here and I hope the mods keep an eye on it.

I personally think there should be a rod license but how can you police anything on the coast? It's impossible!