increase in fishing quotas for irish commercial fleet.

Just had a glimse on yahoo and it seems our very own Simon Coveney has negotiated a very good deal for the commercial fleet especially on the prawn fishery front.Most species have had their quotas increased.Also it looks like the battle lines have been drawn for hard talks with the faroes and iceland regarding the unsustainable mackeral quotas they have given themselves.
Sorry i have'nt got the relevant links but maybe someone can upload the relevant stories,it makes for a very interesting read all the same.Are fish stocks on the up,il let you make up your own minds as im rather confused to say the least .The only positive i can see is that at least our lads appear to have been given a fairer wedge of the quotas.
Tight lines

heres a piece taken from the independant....

In the Celtic Sea the Irish quota for cod is increasing by 77%, haddock and whiting are up 25% and 15% respectively, while quotas for pollock and saithe remain at existing levels. There is a also a 200% rise in the haddock quota off Donegal.

The Irish quota for Celtic Sea herring is also increasing from 11,407 tonnes to 18,236 tonnes, a 60% increase.

jesus...what idiots!

thats not good

feckin a$$$holes!! fish stocks at all time low and then the supposed power to be up the quotas. shocking!!

England got there quota increased too.

200% increase in haddock quota off Donegal? Good news indeed, I'm now looking forward to increasing my haddock catch by 200% next year.

This year I caught 3 of them.....

200% increase in haddock quota off Donegal? Good news indeed, I'm now looking forward to increasing my haddock catch by 200% next year.

This year I caught 3 of them.....

I am sorry having to put a damper onto your optimism but if the commercials are legally allowed to increase their overall quota by 200%, then this years record of 3 haddock will be a thing of the past and might be consigned to memories of the good old times, as will be sea angling and conservation of our maritime species in general.
But maybe I just didn't grasp the sarcasm behind it today

they have also allowed the sea cow back on the list of quotas .its probley the same formula they have used in the past get all the scentific reports and multiply them by 4. oh the greed of some men.i can imagine the line of negoiation now lads we need this increased so we can meet our european loans. assholes!

tw*ts (a) shocking

sad, sickened and disgusted. but not surprised
looks like all we can do to combat the systematic destruction of fish stocks is not to buy any and only eat the odd decent fish we catch ourselves.
at least we know 5 kilo of other fish were'nt killed to get us a single fillet for a fish supper

Its all thanx to the E.U wanting Ireland and England to pay up...

If Ireland can make more money to pay the banks then the E.U dont care if their is no fish left....

they have also allowed the sea cow back on the list of quotas .its probley the same formula they have used in the past get all the scentific reports and multiply them by 4. oh the greed of some men.i can imagine the line of negoiation now lads we need this increased so we can meet our european loans. assholes!

sorry to go off topic but what is a sea cow

read the end of the line, they were a seal type creature wiped out in the 1700s by seafearers they only existed on 2 islands and were compleatly destroyed in less than 2 years. it seems we have learned nothing only better ways of emptying our oceans of all marine life. they have been warned by the scientific community for the past 50yrs the next fish to dissappear is the bluefin tuna which is still been fished .look what happened to newfoundland in the 50s all the cod stocks wiped out .we are heading there

they have also allowed the sea cow back on the list of quotas .its probley the same formula they have used in the past get all the scentific reports and multiply them by 4. oh the greed of some men.i can imagine the line of negoiation now lads we need this increased so we can meet our european loans. assholes!

sorry to go off topic but what is a sea cow

Mix of cash cow and sea cod...

they have also allowed the sea cow back on the list of quotas .its probley the same formula they have used in the past get all the scentific reports and multiply them by 4. oh the greed of some men.i can imagine the line of negoiation now lads we need this increased so we can meet our european loans. assholes!

sorry to go off topic but what is a sea cow

Mix of cash cow and sea cod...

well worth a look http://books.google.ie/books?id=OMY-gEK ... &q&f=false

Very interesting to hear everyones opinions on this one. But here's another idea...

The 200% increase, for example, is shocking especially on species like haddock which are in marked decline. There is one key feature though that no-ones mentioned yet and that the decrease in fishing time. I recon this is a response to tackle the discards issue which everyone including HFW and his Big Fish Fight seem to keep harping on about. There are few ways of reducing discards but increasing quotas and decreasing fishing time will reduce the amount of dead fish dumped at sea. Personally I watched the Big Fish Fight anxiously as it could only have led to this outcome.

I'm not suggesting this increase in quota is positive - i think its too great an increase to simply mitigate the effect of discards - but it may not be as dramatic as a precisely 200% increase in the DEATH of haddock by commercial fishing. The reduction these new quotas and fishing times might have on discards may buffer this 200% out a bit and it may not be as high an increase in death it first appears.

Just some points for thought...

species like haddock which are in marked decline

I have not the slightest doubt that these undervalued fish will be 'rebranded' as cod in all the usual outlets as it is common practice since umpteen years. Greed and profit - that's what counts. I say no more...

my concern with the 200% increase in haddock quotas would be that these fish live within mixed fisheries. so while they are trying to get the extra quota filled how many tonnes of other species will get killed in the process of seeking out the haddock
i'd love to know where the scientific evidence came from to prompt this increase as haddock around donegal are still few and far between

not trying to upset people here but being a commercial fisherman myself the increase is a blessing especially on the cod front, the last 6 or 7 years there has been a serious boom on cod, from south of the mizen to south of the hook for 9 months of the year no getting away from them, reports in the irish sea the same thing. in sector 7G where 95 per cent of our fishing is done our monthly cod quota from may to october was between half ton some months to 2 per cent bi catch other months not a lot when average days would be about a ton of cod a day all DUMPED its an awful sight and awful thing to do .personally i think quotas should be done away with just have a strict days at sea system and land what is caught also increase the mesh size.hope noone blows up after reading this