frozen black lug

Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:49 pm

Hi
Does anyone know if this is any good for beech fishing or has anyone used these and got any good results

Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:57 pm

It's ok, but fresh will always out fish frozen. Some fish are more finnicky than others, once while fishing for bass I didn't get a touch with frozen and the guy just along from me using fresh picked up 2 or 3 in a couple of hours. They seem to work well enough for cod in my experience (down here in Cork), though peeler (frozen or fresh) is better again for the marks I fish.

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:17 pm

not a bad bait very expensive though.have picked up numerous flats on frozen blacks.

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:52 pm

on its day it can actually outfish fresh sometimes for the flats and coalies etc up here.

Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:07 pm

great for flats from the wexford beaches until just into the new year. whipping a fresh one over a frozen one can work wonders. i don't see it as a substitute bait at all. it can outfish fresh.

good for cod too, either with mackeral/squid/mussel tip, or whipped alongside a squid. seems to work better in cocktails for the coddies.

Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:15 pm

mark do you know can you still dig rag and lug at the back of ferrybank

Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:56 pm

ferrybank waterfod/south kilkenny?r am i on different wavelength???

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:56 pm

Ferrybank in Wexford?

If it is - then the answer is no. With the new sea defence arm and the marina the lug beds have been wiped out. Still possible to get rag on the breakwater but hard work though!

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:17 am

i wouldn't have a clue???!! sorry.

Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:44 am

Firstly just to clarify we are talking about Yellow tails here and not just ordinary frozen black lug worm. Standard blacks can work well for dabs and other flats on open flat beaches, if it is proper black lug we are talking about ie, yellow tails then they are far superior, fresh blacks(yellow tails) leave a heavy almost impossible to remove iodine on your hands its about 20 times stronger than ordinary lug/ or standard large black worm which are frozen. You can only get yellow tails on extreme spring tides and from my vast use of them they can be very hit and miss, much better however when frozen as it seems to intensify the scent and works well in chocolaty seas when you are only leave baits for 10 mins max.

Ferrybank is one place I have actually used them in all there forms and after a good southerly they do work well for codling, but being honest fresh crab wipes the floor with them down there. The frozen ones do work down there for your flounders and dabs, but ordinary lug and mack cocktail is just as good.

Personally and from speaking to others over the years blacks(yellow tails) only work when scratching at long range where the frozen version works when trying to pick up a dab/flounder after ordinary lug have failed.

I think people get side tracked using them. In Ireland ordinary lug will 90% of the time out fish it, however in the UK, South and East they would beg to differ!!

Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:45 pm

I posted on this before but how so ever. A few years ago I was fishing Cobh, using frozen black lug, and only connecting with small codling. I moved up to the railing, above the footbridge, and fell in alongside a guy who was very well kitted out with a proper storm suit fancy rod and multilplier reel. I was in my work raingear and had a £50 rod and reel combination.

Anyway, to make a short story shorter, he was catching only pin whiting and I chucked in my frozen lug. By the way my homemade rig was made using 30lb line droping two snoods made by creating a large loop and cutting one side. Within seconds I had landed a 45 cm whiting :D . As I had managed to retrieve the bait more or less intact I chucked it in again. A few minutes later I had a second whiting of 40 cm :lol: .

I left at that point my head held high, a god amongst fishermen :lol: . That poor man must have been hopping mad behind me. By the way I now have a fancy rod and reel, still the same raingear though, and now I catch pin whiting, pouting and tiny codling :oops: . There's food for thought there, don't you think :? ?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:10 am

read i had the same experince myself just above the first rail bridge must have been 5 or 6 years ago i had my biggist cod taking from there on frozen lug its strainge how diffrent companys product,s of lug arent wort a piss and the dont even look like lug i have to say id think ammos lug is the best of a bad bunch the do work quit well for whitin when tip with half a sand eel this is the cocktail i get most results

Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:31 am

I forgot to mention in my previous post that the lug was bought from Murrays, Patrick St. and wasn't from a major company. In fact it the lug were individually wrapped in newspaper which indicates it was sourced from a local bait digger.