Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:51 pm
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:24 pm
baitdigger wrote:Look at it from another perspective, what would you like to catch?? On both marks that you mentioned the bottom is very snaggy for the first twentyfive yards and in some places fifty yards. That means conger, wrasse and huss will be there but you will have to get sorted for rotten-bottom and losing leads. If you can chuck it a bit further dogs, rays, gurnard, plaice, flounder, dab and who knows what else would be possible? You are also in the middle of some great Bass marks and on the sixteenth of June you would be able to start targeting those as well.
Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:25 am
Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:34 pm
baitdigger wrote:Fanore is hot and cold, the Bass are either there or they are not but as a general rule if you can see surfers out there will be a few Bass around. You can get flounder dab and the odd turbot there as well.
The huss tend to live in the same place as the conger and methods for landing them are much the same but 100 lb mono trace is ok for most huss
Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:48 pm
Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:41 pm
baitdigger wrote:Forums like these are the place for lots of questions so no worries.
The flats is mainly sand, at low water you can see the extent of the reefs but it does mean when a fish is on you need to get it over those last few rocks fairly quickly. In the past I have caught rays, dogs, flounder,wrasse, gurnard, pollack and dab there but over the last four years it has become too popular to have any chance of fishing in peace during the mackerel season, it doesnt take long to get fed up with people casting over your lines all day.
There is a spot a few hundred yards to the left of the lighthouse where you go through a gate. anywhere to the left of number sixteen you are onto sand within a reasonable cast. A few plaice have been caught there this year.
Mackerel and sandeel are fine for flatfish, you can cut them into small pieces and mount them on small hooks but that isnt really my thing so hopefully someone else will be able to help you more with that. Lugworm and small rag would also be a good bait.
the huss can be found on many different types of ground, it just happens that the ones at blackhead and ballyreen prefer the dirty rough stuff and particularly the fringe where sand meets rough.
Line is a personal thing and I dont like braid for anything other than lure work. I only use 19lb mono but with a 60lb leader. You will need a decent length of shock/rubbing leader to fish in rough stuff.
That weed and nasty stuff is what you will have to cast into if you want to look for conger and huss. you will need to use some kind of rotten bottom or weak link. You will lose leads and tackle but that is the nature of the game. It isnt for everyone but some people prefer it to catching small stuff. A conger eel is probably your best chance of catching a double figure fish.
Pulley rigs are not a miracle rig. They were designed to allow a hooked fish to pull the lead above itself so it is less likely to snag as the fish is played in. An empty trace the hooks and lead will dangle down and has equal chance of snagging. The pulley rig needs to be tied with some kind of rotten bottom system to make it more effective. Having said that about it it is the 'goto' rig I use for general fishing. Try a running paternoster if you are after conger and huss.
Pollack seem to be easier to catch with a moving bait if you want to target them. The biggest ones seem to take a good sized conger bait and if you hit one of those you would have no trouble with bite detection
Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:40 am
redzerologhlen wrote:
Jeez I dont think I ever ventured over near number 16Normally head to the 50s, There is a spot there that always throws me a pollock or 2 but its pretty snaggy. It all depends with timing on the flats I think, alot of weekdays there doesnt be too many around so you would manage away. Very irratating alright with people casting across your line. I dont actually eat fish so its just for a bit of sport in the evenings, catching mackeral is too easy and the fun is gone out of it for me!! Theres probably no correct answer to this question but what has me probably the most confused is when you throw out your baited hooks and you are not getting any bites how long to leave it before you reel in, rebait and cast to a differ area? And thanks again baitdigger, seems like a great site for info!!
Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:45 pm
baitdigger wrote:redzerologhlen wrote:
Jeez I dont think I ever ventured over near number 16Normally head to the 50s, There is a spot there that always throws me a pollock or 2 but its pretty snaggy. It all depends with timing on the flats I think, alot of weekdays there doesnt be too many around so you would manage away. Very irratating alright with people casting across your line. I dont actually eat fish so its just for a bit of sport in the evenings, catching mackeral is too easy and the fun is gone out of it for me!! Theres probably no correct answer to this question but what has me probably the most confused is when you throw out your baited hooks and you are not getting any bites how long to leave it before you reel in, rebait and cast to a differ area? And thanks again baitdigger, seems like a great site for info!!
Right lets start one thing at a time. The numbers you fish would be best for pollack, conger and the odd wrasse but you would have the most fun with pollack if you got very light tackle and try them on a jelly worm. Even mackerel will surprise you on a light spinning rod. If it were possible to catch five pound mackerel I doubt if I would fish for anything else.
As for your baits that gets a little more complicated and you will learn in time but as a guide give the first bait around twenty minutes in the water. When you reel it in if the bait has gone give the next cast fifteen minutes before checking it. Crabs, shrimp and small fish will eat your bait without necessarily showing a bite.
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