Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 5:39 pm

The fine weather has encouraged ray to swim inshore close to Castletownbere, http://bit.ly/iwxxHZ.
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Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 5:47 pm

Thats one mighty fine raymond! What did you catch it on?

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 5:48 pm

We were down with paul last weekend and the ray failed to show for us. I was shocked at how high the water temperature was. I fished two ray marks down that way last week and all we had were dogs. Just a run of bad luck i guess, as i saw pauls catch journal and it was very impressive for this time of year. I think the last few days of rain might dampen the fishing but as soon as we hear of good catches again we'll be back down. I had a week in the b&b under pauls expert guiding last year and 2 sessions so far this year all in search of ray and i'm still hunting for my first one. Can't wait to hook my first.

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 6:24 pm

I'm down from the 21st staying self catering with some friends. Last year we had great pollack, wrasse, and mullet fishing in late May with things going into overdrive on the second visit in October.

Cod's head this time and maybe Dursey too.

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 6:47 pm

well done,,,what type of ray is that,,,,spotted??????????

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 7:12 pm

Moved from Shore Angling Reports to here, for want of a better place to put it.

Ashley, do us all the courtesy of following SAI Angling Reports formatting, with a bit of info thrown in re rigs, bait, tides etc.

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 7:23 pm

Another nice fish Ashley well done.

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 8:11 pm

If lads took the time to read his link you will see this is not a shore report as such, but simply Ashley posting some details of info that was passed onto him from a local guide in the area.

Fine fish all the same :wink:

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Wed May 04, 2011 11:44 pm

saving private brian wrote:well done,,,what type of ray is that,,,,spotted??????????
good question... had to look this one up and yes, its defo a spotted ray.
for the record, and for anyone else who might be interested, other rays that might be caught in our waters include: blonde, thornback, undulate/painted, and cuckoo.
there is also small-eyed ray, eagle ray, sting ray, electric ray, and marbled electric ray but these fish are far less common.
you can thank a book called British Sea Fishes by Dr Frances Dipper for that info...... :wink: 8)
just thot id share that new-found knowledge there...

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Thu May 05, 2011 10:11 am

chuckaroo wrote:, and for anyone else who might be interested, other rays that might be caught in our waters include: blonde, thornback, undulate/painted, and cuckoo.
there is also small-eyed ray, eagle ray, sting ray, electric ray, and marbled electric ray but these fish are far less common.
you can thank a book called British Sea Fishes by Dr Frances Dipper for that info...... :wink: 8)
just thot id share that new-found knowledge there...


just for the record Undulate and Painted Ray are not the same fish... However Small Eyed Ray and Painted Ray are one in the same :wink: FWIW

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Thu May 05, 2011 10:33 am

saltydog wrote:
chuckaroo wrote:, and for anyone else who might be interested, other rays that might be caught in our waters include: blonde, thornback, undulate/painted, and cuckoo.
there is also small-eyed ray, eagle ray, sting ray, electric ray, and marbled electric ray but these fish are far less common.
you can thank a book called British Sea Fishes by Dr Frances Dipper for that info...... :wink: 8)
just thot id share that new-found knowledge there...


just for the record Undulate and Painted Ray are not the same fish... However Small Eyed Ray and Painted Ray are one in the same :wink: FWIW



I am really confused now as it seems that the Shark trust who have an excellent ray identification http://www.sharktrust.org/content.asp?did=34697guide also list painted ray as one of the common names for the undulate? I always though as you said the painted was also called the small-eyed ray.

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Thu May 05, 2011 10:40 am

baitdigger wrote:
saltydog wrote:
chuckaroo wrote:, and for anyone else who might be interested, other rays that might be caught in our waters include: blonde, thornback, undulate/painted, and cuckoo.
there is also small-eyed ray, eagle ray, sting ray, electric ray, and marbled electric ray but these fish are far less common.
you can thank a book called British Sea Fishes by Dr Frances Dipper for that info...... :wink: 8)
just thot id share that new-found knowledge there...


just for the record Undulate and Painted Ray are not the same fish... However Small Eyed Ray and Painted Ray are one in the same :wink: FWIW



I am really confused now as it seems that the Shark trust who have an excellent ray identification http://www.sharktrust.org/content.asp?did=34697guide also list painted ray as one of the common names for the undulate? I always though as you said the painted was also called the small-eyed ray.


Howdy Neil, well thats interesting alright starnge one... there's some info here on both the Painted/Small Eyed: http://www.uk-fish.info/pages/smalleyedray.html

Undulate: http://www.uk-fish.info/pages/undulateray.html

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Thu May 05, 2011 10:49 am

I've never heard any nick names for the undulate ray. The ray in the photo is a spotted/homelyn ray.

Re: Ray time on the Beara.

Thu May 05, 2011 8:11 pm

saltydog wrote:
baitdigger wrote:
saltydog wrote:
chuckaroo wrote:, and for anyone else who might be interested, other rays that might be caught in our waters include: blonde, thornback, undulate/painted, and cuckoo.
there is also small-eyed ray, eagle ray, sting ray, electric ray, and marbled electric ray but these fish are far less common.
you can thank a book called British Sea Fishes by Dr Frances Dipper for that info...... :wink: 8)
just thot id share that new-found knowledge there...


just for the record Undulate and Painted Ray are not the same fish... However Small Eyed Ray and Painted Ray are one in the same :wink: FWIW



I am really confused now as it seems that the Shark trust who have an excellent ray identification http://www.sharktrust.org/content.asp?did=34697guide also list painted ray as one of the common names for the undulate? I always though as you said the painted was also called the small-eyed ray.


Howdy Neil, well thats interesting alright starnge one... there's some info here on both the Painted/Small Eyed: http://www.uk-fish.info/pages/smalleyedray.html

Undulate: http://www.uk-fish.info/pages/undulateray.html

undulate and painted ray (Raja undulata) are the same fish as far as this book describes
the small-eyed (Raja microocellata) has "wavy streaks and blotches on the back. These streaks are pale cream in colour and not edged with white spots"
Two different species there :wink:

hey hold on, stop press :!: , fishbase states that the painted ray can be referred to EITHER :roll: :
undulate - Raja undualta - http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Species ... dulate+ray
small-eyed - Raja microocellata - http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Species ... l-eyed+ray
painted - Raja undualta AND/OR Raja microocellata - so EITHER (if you put 'painted ray' into the Common Name box then you are given BOTH)

i'll go with fishbase........ FWIW..... :wink: :wink: