Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:13 pm

Hey. Got a Ron Thompson dominator 12ft 2.5lb rod cheap at the fishing expo today. Just something for light scratching on the beach or feathering from rocks. Question is does anyone know the casting weight limit for this rod. Doesn't say it on it and I don't wanna go putting too much weight on. Was thinking maybe 1-2oz but would be nice if it could stretch to 3. Cant find any info on the interweb...

Cheers.

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:37 pm

it would be grand with a 3oz, if its for scratching like you said you wont be using any more the 3oz anyway, you prob wont be casting too hard either. I might be wrong but a 2.5lbs rod is capable of lobbing 2.5lbs out?
I used to have one simular and had no probs with 3oz

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:50 pm

chrisfeeney30 wrote:I might be wrong but a 2.5lbs rod is capable of lobbing 2.5lbs out?
z


i think he means 2.5oz :lol: :lol:

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:36 pm

red wrote:
chrisfeeney30 wrote:I might be wrong but a 2.5lbs rod is capable of lobbing 2.5lbs out?
z


i think he means 2.5oz :lol: :lol:


Haha the 2 of yis are off. The rod says 2.5lb cause thats the weight of the actual rod! And I would actually break my b*****ks laughing trying to cast 2.5lb of lead with this yoke but thanks for the replys lads. Im hoping that some course angler that has the rod will stumble upon this.

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:56 pm

:D :D The 3 of yis are wrong. The 2.5lb is how much weight it takes to bend the rod (from horizontal position) to point to the floor. http://www.pleasurefishing.com/html/fishingrods.htm
red wrote:And I would actually break my b*****ks laughing trying to cast 2.5lb of lead with this yoke but thanks for the replys lads

Thought this was funny!! Imagine. :D

Tommy

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:01 pm

chrisfeeney30 wrote: I might be wrong but a 2.5lbs rod is capable of lobbing 2.5lbs out?


Nah, 2.5lbs is whats called the test curve of the rod which is the amount of weight needed to bend the tip 90 degrees when the rod is horizontal. Something like that anyway.

I wouldn't use more than 3oz on it anyway. it depends on the rod though, you can have two very different rods that each have a 2.5lb rating but have very different actions. Sure just use your common sense like, don't go lashing out weights that the rod clearly can't handle.

Edit: Damn tommy got there first, i need to type faster :lol: :lol:

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:02 pm

Tommy B wrote::D :D The 3 of yis are wrong. The 2.5lb is how much weight it takes to bend the rod (from horizontal position) to point to the floor

Tommy


from what i can gather that is correct but its also accepted that to convert it into casting capabilities you substitute the test curve rating into ounces which would be 2.5oz, which i presume is what chris meant

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:31 pm

Makes sense alright. I use a 2.75lb coarse rod for a bit of mackeral bashing and 2oz is great, whereas 3oz is a bit of a struggle,
Good tip!!
Tommy

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:35 am

Thanks lads. Great info. Wont be goin over 2.5ozs.

Jayball10 wrote:
red wrote:
chrisfeeney30 wrote:I might be wrong but a 2.5lbs rod is capable of lobbing 2.5lbs out?
z


i think he means 2.5oz :lol: :lol:


Haha the 2 of yis are off. The rod says 2.5lb cause thats the weight of the actual rod!


The expression "Egg on my face" springs to mind... :oops:

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:01 pm

ya,its the test curve of the rod,i use a salmon rod with a 1lb 1/4oz test curve and it can handle a 3oz lead,as long as im not trying to blast it out,i use it mainly for flatties.3 oz on a test curve of 2.5lb should be fine.

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:43 pm

I have a few 2.5 lb test curve pike rods one of which I now use for pollacking with jelly worms. When I used them for pike I would cast half a mackerel plus 2-3 ounces of lead. The best pike I had on it was just over twenty pounds. My own answer would be that your rod would be capable of chucking out 3-4 ounces of lead easily but whether or not it would be nice to fish with is another matter. However I don't think it would really be suitable for hauling strings of mackerel up the side of rocks or a pier.

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:52 pm

It should be able to cast 3oz, but would be a pig to fish... 2.5lb rod typically have a very full action and would feel "soft" The tip would dance all over the place in any sort of wind and bite detection would be poor. A good Coarse rod for this type of fishing is a heavy Carp feeder rod..... They normally come with 3 - 4 tips and the 3rd heaviest tip would make a nice esturary or close in scratching rod with 3oz of lead. Having said that A few people on here have mentioned the new Ian Golds (Enticer, I Think) for exactly this type of work.

Kev

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:54 pm

I fished with a 3 lb pike rod in the summer and a mate only use's 3 lb rods for all his sea fishing and i have to say they are great to fish with when theres not much weed or big waves, id rather use pike rods over any bass rod iv tryed as there longer, 12 or 13 ft, and maybe because i like rods with soft tips.
I was never impressed with the fight out of bass untill i used the pike rod, now even a 3 lb schoolie is good craic to catch on it.

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:18 pm

i use 2.5lb and a 2.75lb carp rods for some of my sea fishing, and they can cast a 3oz weight + bait no problem. if the conditions are right then i always grab a carp rod, they are brilliant for flaties, and from rocks or piers they are great for using the float. i've had double figure thornbacks at 16lb+ and huss at 14lb+ on it, and it has held up with no prob's. only drawback i find with them is if its windy they will bounce about in the tripod, but in the right conditions they are very good. at the end of the day these rods are built to handle large pike and carp in the 20 and 30lb range, so even tho' they feel flimsy, they can stand up to the job. but remember these type of rods are build for fresh water fishing, so if using in salt water always rinse it off with fresh water after each session paying particular attention to the eyes and reel fitting.

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:48 pm

Lads this is turning out to be a really interesting topic with some excellent advice and suggestions. Thanks a mill...

Re: Course rod for sea query.

Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:15 pm

Most 2.5 or 3lb. carp rods are designed to be used in conjuction with a bait-runner reel, this means you are not relying on the tip for bite detection. They would be well capable of handling a 3 oz. weight, as they can handle a 2oz plus pva bag when used for carp. Once you get over the bite detection problem, they should be able for anything you are likely to hook into from the beach or pier. A good carp rod, with a decent reel and 12 to 15 lb. line is well capable of landing carp up to 30lb. bearing in mind, a bait runner reel will allow the fish to run using the clutch. With a decent fish on, it involves playing the fish more and not just hauling him to the bank or in this case the shore.