Thu May 05, 2005 10:59 pm
I'm not 100% how they work as I have never used them before.
I bought a pre-made one today - going to give it a lash at the weekend.
Question is - as far as I'm aware it's a rough ground rig. Is it practical to incorporate a rotten-bottom set-up on it? The one I bought has the lead link attached directly to 80lbs mono. I'm thinking it's a goner if/when I get snagged up...
Thanks.
Thu May 05, 2005 11:33 pm
Hi
Just add the rotten bottom link to the terminal "o" ring or split clip, tie the weight on with a lighter mono line and off you go - use them all the time on rough ground.... spark plugs for weights or grips with the wires bent out...
FWIW...
Fri May 06, 2005 3:09 am
Just wondering how a pulley rig works differently to a running ledger ( mainline straight thru loop on lead , then swivel , snood & hook ) . Surely with this setup the tension from a fish would lift the weight up in the same way as a pulley?
I can see that you couldn't incorporate a rotten bottom , and maybe the loop on the lead would be more abrasive but am I missing something else ?
Cheers
nick
Fri May 06, 2005 9:14 am
it works the exact same way as a pulley alright assuming what you catch weighs greater than 5 or 6 oz!!! the idea is the lead is liffted above the fish away from snags as opposed to a standard ledger rig where the lead trails below the fish and can snag. i find that the best rotten bottoms for the pulley rig are the the ones made by gemini
http://www.gemini-tackle.co.uk/frame.htm
they're at the bottom of the page
Fri May 06, 2005 9:18 am
s*** sorry posted the wrong link!(damn computer!) from the gemini homepage,go to genie clip assemblies,and the rotton bottoms are on the bottom of the page...sorry about that
Fri May 06, 2005 9:27 am
I use pulleys all the time. For mixed ground there's no need to add a rotten bottom link only for the really rough stuff. The advantage over a running ledger is that it casts farther due to its paternoster style and the lead is pulled vertically out of a snag when lifting into a fish and lead isn't dragged through the rough when retrieving a fish. Its supposed to aid self hooking and to aid this some anglers use semi-circular hooks. For this reason it's also used for clean ground. The pulley on clipped down rigs keeps the hook length under tension so less chance of unclipping.
Its also the quickest rig to tie so don't bother buying them and losing a few doesn't matter as much
Donagh
Fri May 06, 2005 9:51 am
They really are handy to tie, no messing around with impact shields and cascade swivels. I tend to put a bead either side of the swivel which connects to the mainline. Aswell as protecting the knots (I think) it makes the shorter hook trace part sit proud of the rig mainline, offering better presentation.
Pete
Sat May 07, 2005 4:55 pm
One of the best illustrations I've seen...
http://www.geocities.com/tony2kuk/pullyani.html
(hit the refresh button once loaded)
[img]http://www.geocities.com/tony2kuk/pictures/pulldemo.gif[/img]
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