im a new one...sorry

Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:33 pm

sorry 4 askin stooped things,just got no enought the reel i had,mean distance,and bought ABU ambasadeur,which is all new step 4 me..use penn 14" copperhead,need advise on line and mechanic break before casting,heard that grip by his weight has to go down slowly,how slowly??using 4-5 oz grips,what line to it,15 lb enought?was trying to cast,went ok with just one birdnest in the dark time,but disstance...... :oops: thanks

Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:07 am

is it a mag elite or what model would it be?? i use the green mag elite and also the 6500ct mag which is blue. i would say that 15lb line is fine. i use this myself. would recommend a good line though! daiwa tournament is actually great value and is one of the better lines. use this with some 50lb leader and as for the lead i normally use a 5oz gripper on most occasions but that really depends on the venue.
Also what you should look at is the type of trace you use for example:
try a single hook clip down rig just to give you a better flight.

When using an abu with magnetic brake i would advise to start off with the brake pretty much full on and every cast gradually loosen it. you will get a feel for the reel in this way and learn to control it better. i know you probably want to just have it practically off and launch it but this will reduce the possibility of it birds nesting!

Finally look at your casting methods. I have found a nice long piece of line behind you and trying a less powerful cast will give you great results with the reel until your comfortable with it. It produces a nice smooth cast which is what you want! Try and really chuck it and you might birds nest it! Even have your lead just behind your feet on the ground in an off the ground cast so the lead has the furthest distance to travel up and over into the sea!!!!!

Good luck im sure in a few sessions you will see an improvement!

Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:59 am

If you have the Sports Mag or the Mag Elite, you have the magnetic control to help you cast. Slide the mags to full on to begin with (number and then decrease or increase as your abilities and conditions allow. As for the speed of drop you mentioned, this is the control of the centrifugal brake blocks. Basically, with the blocks installed, the lead shouldn't drop like a stone and allow the spool to overrun causing the birdy. It would be more of a controlled drop. This is all fine and well, but it will reduce your distance.

As for the basic casting with the mutiplier, to begin with, you need to have a good line lay on the reel. If you have a level wind on the reel, this is done for you, if you don't, then make sure the line is evenly wound onto the reel by putting the line against your thumb when reeling in and move the line slowly from side to side. Later, when you get more experienced, you can balance the reel with the line lay, but I won't go into that now. A level wind will reduce the cast length and you will find it more difficult to get a good grip on the spool with your thumb.

If you haven't cast with a multiplier before, have about 2 meters of line from the top of your rod to the lead, put your thumb firmly on the spool, release the lock to put it into free spool - still with your thumb firmly on the spool and cast. At the end of the cast, you lift your thumb and slam your thumb back on the spool when the lead touches down.

The shockleader must be a MINIMUM of 10lbs for every ounce of lead you are using as a rule. So for a 6oz lead you would use a 60lb leader. 60lb is a good all-round leader anyway - one less thing to worry about. My leaders are around 25 to 30 feet long. Don't bother measuring it out, just put the rod together, mount the reel, thread the line through the rings and tie on the leader. Wind the leader on so you have 8 turns of leader on the reel and cut the leader at least 2 meters from the end of the rod. More leader doesn't hurt by the way, but less could hurt someone else.

Just for fun, check out http://www.longcasters.org/movielist.htm

For the techy aspects of reel tuning, check out http://neilmackellow.sea-angler.org/reel_tuning.html

Enjoy.

Ian

Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:47 pm

thanks ,big help for me,realy is,got some new things,like shockleader:),was just tying 15lb line to rig :oops: ,what will happend then,does the real not overrun becouse of shock leader then gets to main line(which is thiner)and yeap im use MAG ELITE the green one find nice so farr,feel the best for me to fit her at the wery bottom of the rod.thanks for help